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Thread: PTC Help for Second Cycle

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    PTC Help for Second Cycle

    Hi all,

    TL;DR, would love advice on the following cycle & (specifcally) PCT
    38/m, 2nd proper cycle (first was same without EQ, different PCT)
    Full back story below.
    Thanks in advance.

    CYCLE:
    100mg Test P, 100mg Mast P, .5 Arimidex EOD
    250mg Equipose twice a week
    1mg Finasteride ED to stem hairloss

    PCT:
    250iu hcg every 5 days for last 3 weeks of cycle
    Then 1000iu hcg EOD for 10 days
    Then Nolva 20mg, Clomid 100mg ED for 30 days

    ----
    Back story:

    Been reading a lot here and about to launch my second proper cycle.
    Did my first last year, and it well, but PCT was a bit bumpy with some sides.
    I'm 38, and before this cycle I've had some previous experience with TRT and orals, and discovered I'm quite prone to estrogenic side effects.

    Bloods confimed recently all healthy and back in range, so I thought I'd try another go round, but I've since read a lot of different info about PCT, and really want to make sure I've got it right.

    PREVIOUS 12 WEEK CYCLE:
    100mg Test P, 100mg Mast P, .5mg Arimidex EOD

    PREVIOUS PCT:
    2,000IU hcg EOD for 20 days
    Nolva 20mg twice a day for 45 days

    This cycle was advised to me by a Bodybuilding coach, and initaially included 250mg Equiopose (which I said I wasn't comfortable with first time around).
    Got some great results and almost zero sides other than feeling rough for the first two weeks, shrunken balls, and increased hairloss.
    The PCT was a bit of a struggle, got bad skin and generally felt pretty rubbish. Took about two months to get on track again.
    In the meatime, I've started taking Finasteride recently to stem hairloss.

    For this cycle, I want to make sure I'm doing the right thing with PCT, and esure the Finasteride won't have a negative impact.
    Any advice is very much apprecatied.
    Thank you kindly.
    Last edited by johnmcquirk; 09-28-2022 at 12:21 PM.

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    I'm not the most experienced here, but I'll say this. Why not just do a test only cycle and see what kind of results you get. Then doing just compound at a time will let you see how it affects your estrogen as well as monitor other sides that may arise. Keep some AId on hand to help with the sides.

    Once you know how one compound affects you, you can then add another one to a later cycle.

    Just my 2cents
    Last edited by teedoff; 09-28-2022 at 05:43 PM.
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    Have tried straight test e in the past at 300mg/wk.

    Got great results with the Test/Mast combo last time. Felt great, zero negative sides. Looking to do it again! Just want to add in the EQ this time.

    Only trouble was with the PCT. Want to get some advice from experienced users on the cycle, but mainly the PCT to suit it.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmcquirk View Post
    Hi all,

    TL;DR, would love advice on the following cycle & (specifcally) PCT
    38/m, 2nd proper cycle (first was same without EQ, different PCT)
    Full back story below.
    Thanks in advance.

    CYCLE:
    100mg Test P, 100mg Mast P, .5 Arimidex EOD
    250mg Equipose twice a week
    1mg Finasteride ED to stem hairloss

    PCT:
    250iu hcg every 5 days for last 3 weeks of cycle
    Then 1000iu hcg EOD for 10 days
    Then Nolva 20mg, Clomid 100mg ED for 30 days

    ----
    Back story:

    Been reading a lot here and about to launch my second proper cycle.
    Did my first last year, and it well, but PCT was a bit bumpy with some sides.
    I'm 38, and before this cycle I've had some previous experience with TRT and orals, and discovered I'm quite prone to estrogenic side effects.

    Bloods confimed recently all healthy and back in range, so I thought I'd try another go round, but I've since read a lot of different info about PCT, and really want to make sure I've got it right.

    PREVIOUS 12 WEEK CYCLE:
    100mg Test P, 100mg Mast P, .5mg Arimidex EOD

    PREVIOUS PCT:
    2,000IU hcg EOD for 20 days
    Nolva 20mg twice a day for 45 days

    This cycle was advised to me by a Bodybuilding coach, and initaially included 250mg Equiopose (which I said I wasn't comfortable with first time around).
    Got some great results and almost zero sides other than feeling rough for the first two weeks, shrunken balls, and increased hairloss.
    The PCT was a bit of a struggle, got bad skin and generally felt pretty rubbish. Took about two months to get on track again.
    In the meatime, I've started taking Finasteride recently to stem hairloss.

    For this cycle, I want to make sure I'm doing the right thing with PCT, and esure the Finasteride won't have a negative impact.
    Any advice is very much apprecatied.
    Thank you kindly.

    HCG could be beneficial if ran during cycle

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    When I would PCT I’d run nolva 4 weeks 40/40/20/20 and clomid at 75/50/50/25. Can’t remember the start time off the top of my head but it’s something like 14-17 days after test C/E.

    I also ran HCG during cycle as well…

    250 ius x 2 for 12-16 weeks depending on the length of my cycle.

    Need to know your start times for pct for each compound and ester, other than that. Nolva/clomid is the gold standard for a reboot. Get blood work done as well
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    Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback.
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