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So I did my first non intramuscular pin today with about .5 mg of test P much in the same fashion as I would hcg in the belly fat. I feel like this is the way to go and I feel a little different albeit possible placebo affect, has anyone else who uses this method found it to be better than intramuscular or advantages other than just not having to use a larger rig?
I have not done IM yet, though that is coming, at some point, who knows when. That said, I prefer sub-q just because it isn't poking the muscles and building up scar tissue.
Lots of discussion in the forum, some recent, on the topic of sub-q. If you dig a bit, you might be able to find it.
I will say that .5ml is a bit excessive, in my experience, but if it worked for you, it's all good. I have not done prop yet, and wonder if that will cause some additional irritation. I do occassionally experience some redness and a little bit of knotting up... That sounds way worse than it is. I mean, maybe a little redness at the injection site for a day or two, and I can feel the oil under the skin for that same time before it disperses. No pain or infection, these things just happen sometimes with sub-q. I've had that happen twice in about 4 months.
I should add that this only occurs in my left cheek, not the right one for whatever reason, this may have something to do with using the off hand for injection. Anyhow, usually when I inject in either side, it doesn't feel like anything is in there, but I do generally limit my injections to .3'ish ml. Currently doing .25ml (62.5mg) test c 2x per week for 125mg total.
I also do sort of a "grab and stab" in the glute area. A bit of an overstatement there too, but that is for illustration purposes. Pinch up some skin and inject in the pinch. I find that GSO test C and mast E inject well with a 27g 1/2" needle.
Also to add, if you just did the injection, you may not notice any redness or lumping until tomorrow. Seems to take about a day to show up for me. I'll be interested in seeing how prop treats you sub-q, I read that it is sometimes poorly tolerated in that style.
Do you know what the carrier oil is?
Been doing subQ for years now. Used to do IM rotation Between glutes and delts, but got tired of occasionally hitting a nerve or something. So went to subQ throughout the abdomen/waist area. Blood work comes back where T should be given the amount I pin. I pin twice a week. Works well...no pain.
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I don’t know what the carrier oil is as I took the label off the bottle to remove any UG sticker as I do have a prescription for test, but I will try and find outQuote:
Originally Posted by Cylon357
0.5 mL is a lot for sub q, I agree, and especially since it’s prop. Even regular C/E gave me pretty painful knots for a week or so. Maybe you’ll have better luck than me. From what I understand, the absorption rate of test sub q is slower and more steady than IM. This results in less of a spike and less conversion to estrogen, supposedly.
I’m going to try and dial it in Test, I believe it was closer to .4 it’s just it’s only 100 mg per ml, I have some Sustanon but I read that was a no no on sub q, but I heard about the less estrogen as well but in the end my back side needs a break from pinning lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Test Monsterone
My TRT is .5ml twice a week and I do it sub-q (unless I'm running a cycle then its all IM) but at .5 I don't have any issues sub-q and prefer doing it that way. Occasionally I can "feel" a little puddle under the skin, but its gone within hours. I've heard about different absorption rates, but for ongoing TRT its likely trivial in my opinion.
Damn, I wish I had some of that test. I’ve tried different ugls and some pharmacy and most gave some form of knots, some more painful than others.
How’s the sub q going for you, Testie?
That 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie67
Also, "puddle" is a good way to describe how it feels. Like you, most of the time, I don't feel anything, but once in a while, I can kind of feel it for a bit.
I think my technique and placement has gotten better. I know the better areas to inject for me and just rotate those.
Man I tried it for a bit but went back IM as I was using some Sustanon and was told that’s not the route, I’m on a mild cycle now but I will go back sub q the injections are far more convenient and oddly enough I have a needle phobiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Test Monsterone
Did you have issues with the sus subq like lumps, swelling etc? Or did you just decide not to go that route?Quote:
Originally Posted by Testie
I did not have any issues as far as lumps or swelling however I did have some slight soreness after one injection for a couple of days, I also use hcg in the same area with the same method so it could have been either/or regardless it wasn’t enough to deter me, I started to run around 500 mg of sustanon a week so I went back to IM until I’m through with this little cycleQuote:
Originally Posted by Cylon357
I have seen people use 29 gauge for IM. Daily injections of upto 0.5cc.
I might give this a try instead of the 25 gauge as I feel I am lean enough.
I use 27 gauge 3/8" and have done 1cc IM. I'm now doing 0.5cc. Neither dose has posed any issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euroholic
Some injectables routinely cause lumps that take months to absorb when injected SubQ. I have had issues with Tren AQ, Test Suspension, and Winny, all leaving lumps for some time afterward.