Cycle for my 40th

[supersafado]

Been on TRT for a year. 200mg a week. Looking for my 40th birthday to do a cycle. I did a basic cycle about 8 years ago. Got married and never went back for a second cycle.

I would like to do an intermediate cycle. First initial thought is up my test-c to 500/week for 12 weeks. With that I would like some suggestion. Considering deca 400/week for 10 weeks and anavar 4-6 weeks at 50mg. Had anyone ran anavar for the first 4 weeks of a cycle and then the last 4 weeks of a cycle?

I’ve had a dietitian in the past and plan to get another in the months before and through my cycle. I’m about 4-5 months out.

[< <Samson> >]

Do u take any ai just on trt?

I wouldn’t even jump the test that high(or deca ) due to estro sides - var is right on the money tho

I’d do something like your usual test(maybe jump it to 250-300mg weekly) + add deca at about 150-200mg weekly. For the Var, I usually run it long term(6-8 weeks) but, a low dose(25mg daily) - but, 50mg daily for a month would definitely be noticeable

[supersafado]

Nope. No ai on TRT. Doc said he likes where my levels are at. However, on cycle that has been a question. Not sure what to do there.

[< <Samson> >]

Nope. No ai on TRT. Doc said he likes where my levels are at. However, on cycle that has been a question. Not sure what to do there.

Just keep the doses lower - var won’t do much to your estro tho(as far as I know)

What are your e2 numbers at 200mg weekly?

[supersafado]

Maybe a lower dose and longer may be a good thing to consider. 40mg for 6 weeks?

[supersafado]

It’s stayed around 60. As long as it says under 100 I was told they weren’t concerned.

[supersafado]

It’s been a long time since I’ve done a deep dive into these different compounds so I can’t remember a lot but shouldn’t test be a lot higher than deca ? Like almost double the deca dosage?

[Cuz]

It’s been a long time since I’ve done a deep dive into these different compounds so I can’t remember a lot but shouldn’t test be a lot higher than deca? Like almost double the deca dosage?

Thats just an old bro science rule to keep from getting deca dick. Alot depends on the individual. I wouldnt mess with deca right now. All you need to do is run your test up to 500 a week. You will need an ai on hand like arimidex . Nolvadex would be good to have on hand also

Pull ur bloods 4-5 weeks in to see where your estrogen is thats what you will need to watch you may or may not need an ai but a good start point is .25 twice a week which is what i do now on a trt dose but like said everyone is different i happen to convert more estrogen than average joe so i have to watch mine

The theory of not taking an ai you will grow more without I think is false. But that’s from my experience alone it may be generally true just not for me i have gained a good 5lbs since i have started using an AI the lst 6 months but again bloodwork during your cycle is cruicial to see where you stand

Btw, you could do the anavar like someone mentioned i would actually suggest it. Your not gonna get a big hit out of 25 mg per day for 6 weeks but you will notice some strength gains and they will stay alot longer while youre on trt vs a non try person.

I thnk a blast of test C 500 12 weeks and 25mg of var for 4-6 weeks with adex and nolva on hand is a good recommendation. Good luck

[supersafado]

So is the ai prescribed by your doc or is that just what you run while on a cycle? Do you see any issues running anavar at 40mg for 6 weeks. I think I will drop the deca . Was considering npp but probably better to keep the cycle simple. What does a post cycle look like while on TRT? How long would you run an ai after going back to your standard TRT dosage?

[< <Samson> >]

Or - drop the deca , keep the Var - same dose test & add some Tren Ace eod

Shit, even at a super low dose - nothing measures up to tren. . .Can do e too, but ace was/is my always go to

[supersafado]

Tren is kind of intimidating. What’s considered a conservative dosage? Also, I see a lot of people suggesting test and pretty low dosage. Almost the same as my TRT dosage. Don’t you want to run test at 400-600mg/week?

Also, this is slightly off topic but I don’t want to create another thread. If anavar is so mild would someone be able to run 3-4 weeks of dbol at first of cycle and 4 weeks of var at end of cycle? What would be the down side of 2 orals in the same cycle?

Also, where are most of you guys pulling your blood test. I’d prefer not going through TRT doc when I’m in the middle of a cycle.

[Cylon357]

Tren is kind of intimidating. What’s considered a conservative dosage? Also, I see a lot of people suggesting test and pretty low dosage. Almost the same as my TRT dosage. Don’t you want to run test at 400-600mg/week?

Also, this is slightly off topic but I don’t want to create another thread. If anavar is so mild would someone be able to run 3-4 weeks of dbol at first of cycle and 4 weeks of var at end of cycle? What would be the down side of 2 orals in the same cycle?

Also, where are most of you guys pulling your blood test. I’d prefer not going through TRT doc when I’m in the middle of a cycle.

I use ultalabtests, a lot of others use privatemdlabs. Price them in your area, and of course there are other options.

[< <Samson> >]

Where I live I can get direct blood work requisitions myself - just pay & they’ll do just about any test u want at sonoraquest - but, my PCP just gets em pulled so I don’t have to pay out of pocket

It just depends on what you’re looking to get out of this - I always recommend keeping test low, just cause I never seen the benefit of high test after my 1st cycle. . . Whenever I do jump back on(I’m off right now due to crap fertility reasons) - I’m doing something like your trt dose(200mg weekly) + tren ace eod at only about 30-50mg eod < it’s enough if it’s quality shit + 25mg daily of var for like 6-8 weeks. . . Var is mild & even at low doses gave me a huge strength increase

Suggesting a cycle is kinda difficult - there are so many. But, each one has a different set of side effects to gain ratio

[supersafado]

So I’m pretty sure tren is out. I’m not sure the gains you get are worth the sides. I’m not looking to compete. My cycle has been evolving as I have be discussing it and researching it.

If I can find primo, that’s probably what I would like to stack. I keep hearing about how hard it is to get.
Cycle looks like this.
400/week test-c
500/week primo
Cycle is a 14 week cycle.

I have also considered running npp at 250mg/week as well. Anyone have any feel back or issues on those dosages?

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, if you can afford Primo - run that shit. . . Lol

I just ran it a bit back & I just didn't notice much of anything at 500mg weekly. . . "If" it was an option for me, Id something like 700mg of Primo weekly + about 300-350mg of test


NPP is EOD & that's one compound I have never tried

[supersafado]

I’m sure with 300-400/week test and 700 primo that would be plenty to get the results I’m after. I like having a 19-nor on top of everything even if it’s not high dosage. It may be more that I need though.

[Family_guy]

What’s your goals for the cycle ? Also how many compounds you willing to run?

I personally think DHB was my favorite compound but it’s kinda pricey. I think of it like test x2 lol. Except gives you wayyy harder look. Strength through the roof. No androgenic sides.

I personally didn’t like Deca at all. Deca at 250 mg a week give me gyno when 750 mg test +25 mg of Dbol didn’t give me even the slightest bit of Gyno at all. Also I felt like deca made me look rather watery.

Again preference though

[Family_guy]

I think you’d be really happy with that cycle but again it depends a lot on your goals

[Family_guy]

Yes you could absolutely run dbol and then anavR in the same cycle. The guru himself gearhead was a huge proponent of compound cycling.

I won’t be able to give you nearly the explanation that he could so maybe some more knowledgeable members could elaborate or correct anything if I’m wrong here but basically the idea was to run multiple different compounds but for very short periods of time as little as four weeks in the same cycle.

For example

Wk1-4
Test 500mg+
Dbol 25mg daily =“Volumization/Estrogenic phase”

Wk 5-9
Test 250mg +
Deca /EQ 250/400 respectively
Anavar 25-50mg daily= “Anabolic Phase”

Wk10-14
Test 250mg +
Mast 400mg
Winstrol 25mg daily= “Androgenic Phase”

I’m not suggesting you use those doses or those compounds. Just an example I pulled from memory. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m off which is quite possible.

Do a search for “compound cycling” or “phase cycling” and read the posts from Gear himself. (RIP. Wtf who banned him btw. Fuck man come on)

[Cylon357]

(RIP. Wtf who banned him btw. Fuck man come on)

You weren't here for it, but the short story is he had it coming, was warned it was coming, kept doing the things that warranted the ban, and accepted his fate.

There. I just saved you two long, boobless, days of reading

[supersafado]

What’s your goals for the cycle ? Also how many compounds you willing to run?

I personally think DHB was my favorite compound but it’s kinda pricey. I think of it like test x2 lol. Except gives you wayyy harder look. Strength through the roof. No androgenic sides.

I personally didn’t like Deca at all. Deca at 250 mg a week give me gyno when 750 mg test +25 mg of Dbol didn’t give me even the slightest bit of Gyno at all. Also I felt like deca made me look rather watery.

Again preference though

Ok, so sometimes I feel like I come on forums just to put ideas down. I’ve slightly changed my time frame on my cycle. My current plan is in about 6 months or so, doing first, a test only 12 week cycle. I may consider adding a second compound but I’m not a huge fan of orals. I’m not they are really worth it…. I haven’t convinced myself of anything yet. Going to start test at 400mg of test maybe work up to 500mg. Not go crazy. My last cycle was years ago so I kind of want to treat this like a first or second cycle.

6 months after that I want to do another cycle and I’ll throw a third compound in. Sometimes I get all excited and want to throw it all in. Just need to remind myself to take it slow.

I’m not planning on a show at this point. First cycle is lean gains. 2nd is up in air. I pretty much have 1st cycle decided. Just need to get an idea on dosages. 2nd cycle I’d like to try primo or npp but I’m not sure I can find real primo though. That’s my biggest hesitation with primo.

[Family_guy]

Hahaha! Now that you mention it this whole forum is rather boobless!

“Admin can we please get some old school banner ads floating across the screen with nothing but boobs? And big butts? Ohh ya and if you could make sure they’re all latinas you’d be my hero…”

[Family_guy]

Hey I personally get that. I think this place has calmed down a lot from like 10 years ago way before I was here. You’d get bitched out for “thinking out loud” if it wasn’t whatever the prevailing wisdom of bro science said at the time…

So ya I get what your saying.


On orals though I can only speak for Dbol which is the only oral I’ve done but I wouldn’t say they’re overrated or not worth it. Like anything else, i thjnk it’s more about using the right tool for the right job. If I was bulking I wouldn’t run 1g of Tren cuz first I would die secondly appetite be gone thirdly Obs would tell me I’m a pussy for running “only” a gram a week!

On the other hand if I was really just trying to maintain as much muscle as possible and look hard as possible on a contest prep I think a couple of weeks of Tren would be a helpful addition.

Again just examples and I’m no expert but hopefully you get the point I’m making.

[Cylon357]

Hahaha! Now that you mention it this whole forum is rather boobless!

“Admin can we please get some old school banner ads floating across the screen with nothing but boobs? And big butts? Ohh ya and if you could make sure they’re all latinas you’d be my hero…”

It's a damn sausage fest!