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So I have now been on two different test e's from two different labs. The reason for switching from what I originally had was because I was using 600mg per week and my total test level was only 1300. So I went to another pretty trusted local source ( the anavar and hcg are definitely legit) and my levels are exactly the same. Can both of these tests be exactly as underdosed? Or may there be some other reason for it?
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You asked about this last time when you were cruising on 200 mg.
You never did got on TRT?
There are two things you can do.
1.Call any TRT clinic in the US and get on. Most
Clinics your labs can go back a 6 months.
Some a year.
2. Send your gear to get tested
Other than that youre just spinning your wheels posting about blood levels every 3 months.
It would be helpful too if you posted the company so we can also know that their gear is crap.
Edit: Saw your other thread, you said you started TRT?
Im confused here.
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No I actually didn't post this, I did another cycle with another pretty trusted sources test different from the first one I was using in a previous post. In between I was on trt yes.Originally Posted by wellshii
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Ok so whats your
1. TRT dose
2. Company brand of prescription
3. Blood levels on that dose?
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I wouldn't trust either of your sources. From the looks of it, it's underdosed. I mean, you could send a vial of it to a lab for testing.
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What is your injection protocol and when are you doing blood work relative to your last shot? We all respond differently, but man, 600mg yest per week ought to put you well over 1300 total, unless you have a whack injection plan.
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Tuesday night and Saturday morning, I did one test in trough and another a day or two after if I remember correctly. Is there anyway my body is not fully letting the ester absorb? I mean idk how two different sources would put me at the exactly same level pretty much. I'll post both blood works.
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You need to keep an eye on your C-reactive protein. At least scale back your lifting then pull that panel again in a few weeks.
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Yeah, I figured that was because of my lifting and also my messed up back. But maybe you can elaborate on what you might think it is?
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Also, is there a SHBG panel in there? Your free T is barely top end of the range.
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Yeah that's why I'm confused. My total test should be way higher also at 600 mg per week but if you read my first post in this thread, maybe that will elaborate a bit.
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Exactly what I was thinking. That would be my only guess other than the possibility that both sources are under dosed…but I’m no expert.
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Whose name is in the upper right corner of the labs?
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My trt doctor didn't think to crop it since that is his profession, I can remove if it's not warranted.
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Just making sure it isn't yours.
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I would crop out your specimen number on the top right and the ID number in the top center.
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If you’re seeing a legit TRT specialist, you should ask for a more comprehensive panel. Did you order this draw or did he? Has there been a follow up appointment? If there is and he didn’t mention your lab results, I’d look at a different clinic. Great points regarding SHBG and your C-reactive protein, these should be red flags. Admittedly I didn’t comb through your lab’s but it’s the docs job to do so.
Yes, you want someone who isn’t afraid to RX but who also takes a vested interest in your overall well being. As AG states, if you want the boards help you have to give us all of the pages to the story.
And that wasn’t complaining I read about a younger lady pawing at you all the time, was it? There will be mo sympathy given. You peeled the covers back by screen shooting your camera role. We’re an observant group and the devils always in the details. And yes there is a place to post pics, PM me for my proton email and I’ll gladly help you out
Get your shit right bro, health first. Make sure theres nothing underlying that’s being missed. That’s a massive inflammatory marker you have going on there. Address that and then you can address the under dosed test. I recently had a similar issue with a trusted source.
Was on 700 and was only in the 3000’s, free T was through the roof though because I had some solid proviron which is something you should consider once everything else is dialed in.
As already stated, I’d drop any orals, the HGH and anything else you may have forgotten to mention and see if you can identify the culprit. Definitely something up with your source though as 600 mgs should have you way over the top end of the “normal” range.
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If you’re seeing a legit TRT specialist, you should ask for a more comprehensive panel. Did you order this draw or did he? Has there been a follow up appointment? If there is and he didn’t mention your lab results, I’d look at a different clinic. Great points regarding SHBG and your C-reactive protein, these should be red flags. Admittedly I didn’t comb through your lab’s but it’s the docs job to do so.
Yes, you want someone who isn’t afraid to RX but who also takes a vested interest in your overall well being. As AG states, if you want the boards help you have to give us all of the pages to the story.
And that wasn’t complaining I read about a younger lady pawing at you all the time, was it? There will be mo sympathy given. You peeled the covers back by screen shooting your camera role. We’re an observant group and the devils always in the details. And yes there is a place to post pics, PM me for my proton email and I’ll gladly help you out
Get your shit right bro, health first. Make sure theres nothing underlying that’s being missed. That’s a massive inflammatory marker you have going on there. Address that and then you can address the under dosed test. I recently had a similar issue with a trusted source.
Was on 700 and was only in the 3000’s, free T was through the roof though because I had some solid proviron which is something you should consider once everything else is dialed in.
As already stated, I’d drop any orals, the HGH and anything else you may have forgotten to mention and see if you can identify the culprit. Definitely something up with your source though as 600 mgs should have you way over the top end of the “normal” range.
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Thanks yea my trt doc is a quack the first lab is what he ordered not comprehensive at all. He won't even prescribe and hcg or inhibitors. Time to find something better and yeah, I'm trying to figure out what's going on with the c reactive honestly, I didn't even get that far down the list when I saw hello my testosterone levels were. I go in this coming up Monday, so hopefully all is good. I've been off the Anavar and HGH for a few weeks now I'm gonna get a baseline on my TRT and go from there Thanks for all the help guy really appreciate it.
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The other ones I can't post this is all I got that's not pretty much porn.
And I would never complain about a hot 24 year old sucking the soul out of me nightly, this high crp has to have some pay off right? Haha
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a higher c-reactive protein doesn't necessarily mean heart disease. It can mean RA or other inflammatory illnesses. It's an indicator of inflammation. So don't get worried just yet, but go see your PCP and bring that bloodwork results with you. See if he wants to order more tests. And maybe he might want to look at what is the cause of it.
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I'll just add scale your lifts back, and go check in with your Dr., particularly on the C-reactive protein.
You running any GH or are you like me and have naturally high IGF-1 levels?
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I'll go check back in, yea I am Running hgh
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You're going to burst into flames with that crp level.....
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And for the record, nothing wrong with sharing the ol’ camera role
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Although it is it at the upper end of the range, your free T is within normal reference range for this assay. For those taking exogenous testosterone that is atypical, if not outright impossible on supraphysiologic doses of T. I am on TRT at 125mg/wk and my free T is outside normal limits with total T safely below higher limit threshold per the assay used. Unless the lab is botched or, as mentioned, you have a very infrequent injection routine with bloodwork right before next shot, your gear is bunk. Still, it would seem with high levels of total T your free T should be well above; since, as I said, normal total T exogenously will produce high free T values.
Would be interesting to get some pharm grade T and see what happens and/or try a different lab.
What other drugs are you taking? IGF? hGH? an AI?
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