Test e

[Beefcheeks7]

So I have now been on two different test e's from two different labs. The reason for switching from what I originally had was because I was using 600mg per week and my total test level was only 1300. So I went to another pretty trusted local source ( the anavar and hcg are definitely legit) and my levels are exactly the same. Can both of these tests be exactly as underdosed? Or may there be some other reason for it?

[wellshii]

You asked about this last time when you were cruising on 200 mg.
You never did got on TRT?
There are two things you can do.
1.Call any TRT clinic in the US and get on. Most
Clinics your labs can go back a 6 months.
Some a year.
2. Send your gear to get tested

Other than that youre just spinning your wheels posting about blood levels every 3 months.

It would be helpful too if you posted the company so we can also know that their gear is crap.

Edit: Saw your other thread, you said you started TRT?
Im confused here.

[Cylon357]

So I have now been on two different test e's from two different labs. The reason for switching from what I originally had was because I was using 600mg per week and my total test level was only 1300. So I went to another pretty trusted local source ( the anavar and hcg are definitely legit) and my levels are exactly the same. Can both of these tests be exactly as underdosed? Or may there be some other reason for it?

What is your injection protocol and when are you doing blood work relative to your last shot? We all respond differently, but man, 600mg yest per week ought to put you well over 1300 total, unless you have a whack injection plan.

[Beefcheeks7]

You asked about this last time when you were cruising on 200 mg.
You never did got on TRT?
There are two things you can do.
1.Call any TRT clinic in the US and get on. Most
Clinics your labs can go back a 6 months.
Some a year.
2. Send your gear to get tested

Other than that youre just spinning your wheels posting about blood levels every 3 months.

It would be helpful too if you posted the company so we can also know that their gear is crap.

Edit: Saw your other thread, you said you started TRT?
Im confused here.

No I actually didn't post this, I did another cycle with another pretty trusted sources test different from the first one I was using in a previous post. In between I was on trt yes.

[Beefcheeks7]

What is your injection protocol and when are you doing blood work relative to your last shot? We all respond differently, but man, 600mg yest per week ought to put you well over 1300 total, unless you have a whack injection plan.

Tuesday night and Saturday morning, I did one test in trough and another a day or two after if I remember correctly. Is there anyway my body is not fully letting the ester absorb? I mean idk how two different sources would put me at the exactly same level pretty much. I'll post both blood works.

[Beefcheeks7]

[almostgone]

You need to keep an eye on your C-reactive protein. At least scale back your lifting then pull that panel again in a few weeks.

[almostgone]

Also, is there a SHBG panel in there? Your free T is barely top end of the range.

[almostgone]

Whose name is in the upper right corner of the labs?

[Beefcheeks7]

You need to keep an eye on your C-reactive protein. At least scale back your lifting then pull that panel again ing for a few weeks and

Yeah, I figured that was because of my lifting and also my messed up back. But maybe you can elaborate on what you might think it is?

[Beefcheeks7]

Also, is there a SHBG panel in there? Your free T is barely top end of the range.

Yeah that's why I'm confused. My total test should be way higher also at 600 mg per week but if you read my first post in this thread, maybe that will elaborate a bit.

[Beefcheeks7]

Whose name is in the upper right corner of the labs?

My trt doctor didn't think to crop it since that is his profession, I can remove if it's not warranted.

[almostgone]

Yeah that's why I'm confused. My total test should be way higher also at 600 mg per week but if you read my first post in this thread, maybe that will elaborate a bit.

Your free T is worse than your total T. You need that SHBG panel for one thing.

You can Google "C-reactive protein" and get the full rundown, but I would do some investigating.

I'll just say I had pretty much my whole C-spine deteriorate and then get rebuilt and I wasn't getting that kind of value.

[almostgone]

My trt doctor didn't think to crop it since that is his profession, I can remove if it's not warranted.

Just making sure it isn't yours.

[almostgone]

Personally, my advice would be to drop back to your prescribed TRT values for now.

Get some good baseline values (including SHBG) and figure out why your C-reactive protein is out of the park. IMHO, that's an important marker that shouldn't be ignored.

[almostgone]

I'll just add scale your lifts back, and go check in with your Dr., particularly on the C-reactive protein.

You running any GH or are you like me and have naturally high IGF-1 levels?

[Beefcheeks7]

I'll just add scale your lifts back, and go check in with your Dr., particularly on the C-reactive protein.

You running any GH or are you like me and have naturally high IGF-1 levels?

I'll go check back in, yea I am Running hgh

[Beefcheeks7]

Personally, my advice would be to drop back to your prescribed TRT values for now.

Get some good baseline values (including SHBG) and figure out why your C-reactive protein is out of the park. IMHO, that's an important marker that shouldn't be ignored.

Well at those levels I've been only slightly higher than my trt goal levels haha. But I am just running my prescribed test now.

[Beefcheeks7]

Personally, my advice would be to drop back to your prescribed TRT values for now.

Get some good baseline values (including SHBG) and figure out why your C-reactive protein is out of the park. IMHO, that's an important marker that shouldn't be ignored.

Would anavar cause a high c-reactive level? I was taking some then also forgot about that.

[almostgone]

Well at those levels I've been only slightly higher than my trt goal levels haha. But I am just running my prescribed test now.

You need to get a grip on the C-reactive protein and get that A1C down some. Drop off of the GH too, IMHO.

[SampsonandDelilah]

You need to get a grip on the C-reactive protein and get that A1C down some. Drop off of the GH too, IMHO.

Great advice, also send better quality images of that tattooed gal on the bottom of your camera roll. That will probably give me a better idea of what’s going on with your labs

[wellshii]

No I actually didn't post this, I did another cycle with another pretty trusted sources test different from the first one I was using in a previous post. In between I was on trt yes.

Ok so whats your
1. TRT dose
2. Company brand of prescription
3. Blood levels on that dose?

[Honkey_Kong]

My trt doctor didn't think to crop it since that is his profession, I can remove if it's not warranted.

I would crop out your specimen number on the top right and the ID number in the top center.

[Honkey_Kong]

I wouldn't trust either of your sources. From the looks of it, it's underdosed. I mean, you could send a vial of it to a lab for testing.

[Beefcheeks7]

Great advice, also send better quality images of that tattooed gal on the bottom of your camera roll. That will probably give me a better idea of what’s going on with your labs

Haha my chick is a smoke show never mind posting her, there's a spot for that here right? She maybe why my t is low she drains it out of me, the younger ones can't get enough.

[kelkel]

You're going to burst into flames with that crp level.....

[almostgone]

Would anavar cause a high c-reactive level? I was taking some then also forgot about that.

Not that I know of, if anything anavar would blunt your SHBG and give you a higher free T.

With your A1C trending in the direction it is going, I would drop off of the GH until you get things sorted.

Edit: You really need to list everything you are on including dosage and duration . You had "forgotten" to mention GH until I asked about it and then you forgot about the anavar.

Not being an a-hole, but incomplete details give you incomplete and often incorrect answers

[Family_guy]

Also, is there a SHBG panel in there? Your free T is barely top end of the range.

Exactly what I was thinking. That would be my only guess other than the possibility that both sources are under dosed…but I’m no expert.

[SampsonandDelilah]

My trt doctor didn't think to crop it since that is his profession, I can remove if it's not warranted.

If you’re seeing a legit TRT specialist, you should ask for a more comprehensive panel. Did you order this draw or did he? Has there been a follow up appointment? If there is and he didn’t mention your lab results, I’d look at a different clinic. Great points regarding SHBG and your C-reactive protein, these should be red flags. Admittedly I didn’t comb through your lab’s but it’s the docs job to do so.

Yes, you want someone who isn’t afraid to RX but who also takes a vested interest in your overall well being. As AG states, if you want the boards help you have to give us all of the pages to the story.

And that wasn’t complaining I read about a younger lady pawing at you all the time, was it? There will be mo sympathy given. You peeled the covers back by screen shooting your camera role. We’re an observant group and the devils always in the details. And yes there is a place to post pics, PM me for my proton email and I’ll gladly help you out

Get your shit right bro, health first. Make sure theres nothing underlying that’s being missed. That’s a massive inflammatory marker you have going on there. Address that and then you can address the under dosed test. I recently had a similar issue with a trusted source.

Was on 700 and was only in the 3000’s, free T was through the roof though because I had some solid proviron which is something you should consider once everything else is dialed in.

As already stated, I’d drop any orals, the HGH and anything else you may have forgotten to mention and see if you can identify the culprit. Definitely something up with your source though as 600 mgs should have you way over the top end of the “normal” range.

Best

[SampsonandDelilah]

And for the record, nothing wrong with sharing the ol’ camera role

[Beefcheeks7]

If you’re seeing a legit TRT specialist, you should ask for a more comprehensive panel. Did you order this draw or did he? Has there been a follow up appointment? If there is and he didn’t mention your lab results, I’d look at a different clinic. Great points regarding SHBG and your C-reactive protein, these should be red flags. Admittedly I didn’t comb through your lab’s but it’s the docs job to do so.

Yes, you want someone who isn’t afraid to RX but who also takes a vested interest in your overall well being. As AG states, if you want the boards help you have to give us all of the pages to the story.

And that wasn’t complaining I read about a younger lady pawing at you all the time, was it? There will be mo sympathy given. You peeled the covers back by screen shooting your camera role. We’re an observant group and the devils always in the details. And yes there is a place to post pics, PM me for my proton email and I’ll gladly help you out

Get your shit right bro, health first. Make sure theres nothing underlying that’s being missed. That’s a massive inflammatory marker you have going on there. Address that and then you can address the under dosed test. I recently had a similar issue with a trusted source.

Was on 700 and was only in the 3000’s, free T was through the roof though because I had some solid proviron which is something you should consider once everything else is dialed in.

As already stated, I’d drop any orals, the HGH and anything else you may have forgotten to mention and see if you can identify the culprit. Definitely something up with your source though as 600 mgs should have you way over the top end of the “normal” range.

Best

Thanks yea my trt doc is a quack the first lab is what he ordered not comprehensive at all. He won't even prescribe and hcg or inhibitors. Time to find something better and yeah, I'm trying to figure out what's going on with the c reactive honestly, I didn't even get that far down the list when I saw hello my testosterone levels were. I go in this coming up Monday, so hopefully all is good. I've been off the Anavar and HGH for a few weeks now I'm gonna get a baseline on my TRT and go from there Thanks for all the help guy really appreciate it.

[Beefcheeks7]

The other ones I can't post this is all I got that's not pretty much porn.

And I would never complain about a hot 24 year old sucking the soul out of me nightly, this high crp has to have some pay off right? Haha

[Honkey_Kong]

Thanks yea my trt doc is a quack the first lab is what he ordered not comprehensive at all. He won't even prescribe and hcg or inhibitors. Time to find something better and yeah, I'm trying to figure out what's going on with the c reactive honestly, I didn't even get that far down the list when I saw hello my testosterone levels were. I go in this coming up Monday, so hopefully all is good. I've been off the Anavar and HGH for a few weeks now I'm gonna get a baseline on my TRT and go from there Thanks for all the help guy really appreciate it.

a higher c-reactive protein doesn't necessarily mean heart disease. It can mean RA or other inflammatory illnesses. It's an indicator of inflammation. So don't get worried just yet, but go see your PCP and bring that bloodwork results with you. See if he wants to order more tests. And maybe he might want to look at what is the cause of it.

[Honkey_Kong]

The other ones I can't post this is all I got that's not pretty much porn.

And I would never complain about a hot 24 year old sucking the soul out of me nightly, this high crp has to have some pay off right? Haha

By the way, that bathroom in your avatar looks a lot like the bathroom at the Crunch in Chatsworth. The one that used to be Powerhouse.

[Beefcheeks7]

By the way, that bathroom in your avatar looks a lot like the bathroom at the Crunch in Chatsworth. The one that used to be Powerhouse.

That's actually the 24 on topanga but I used to hit that crunch, I actually have a membership to the crunch out by me now they are decent. if you're in la and have AAA look up active and fit on their app I get all the big name gyms for only 25 a month.

[Honkey_Kong]

That's actually the 24 on topanga but I used to hit that crunch, I actually have a membership to the crunch out by me now they are decent. if you're in la and have AAA look up active and fit on their app I get all the big name gyms for only 25 a month.

I pay $25 just for access to all of the Crunches (not just in LA). I spend a lot of time in the OC as well and there are locations nearby, so it makes sense to be a member of that gym. Some of the Crunch gyms are alright, others (like the Northridge one) have busted equipment (like every single olympic barbell having either so much slop in the sleeves or the bearings are all broken), an awful stench throughout the gym (but worse in the locker room) and despite charging us extra for COVID cleaning fees, the place is even dirtier with wipes and empty bottles on the floor all over the gym.

I also am a member at a couple other gyms, but they're not 24/7.

[SampsonandDelilah]

a higher c-reactive protein doesn't necessarily mean heart disease. It can mean RA or other inflammatory illnesses. It's an indicator of inflammation. So don't get worried just yet, but go see your PCP and bring that bloodwork results with you. See if he wants to order more tests. And maybe he might want to look at what is the cause of it.

Agreed,

I don’t think anyone is implying dooms day, just be proactive brother. There’s been a few of us that have had to go through some scary health shit and at the end of the day, that’s the important stuff. Honkey nailed it regarding inflammation and awesome catch by AG. I just glanced at your labs looking for the test totals and missed it too. He’s the best.

Solid fellas weighing in here.

And lastly (and most importantly) nice work on the lady friend..I hope you know I was just teasing about posting pics. I’m a bit of a modern day sailor and have a few randoms (of which I shared) but would never share any of the one that’s most important to me. Seeing 24 and “soul sucking” excites and exhausts all at the same time. She’s a knockout, nice work.

I’m getting old…

Fire that doctor and get someone you can cultivate a good relationship with, that values your t levels as highly as your overall health. It can be a quest, but it’ll pay off in the long run. Keep us posted.

Gotta get the ugl figured out too eventually, that shit is definitely under dosed. Hit the UGL section, some good chatter lately and might be of interest.

Best

[Beefcheeks7]

Agreed,

I don’t think anyone is implying dooms day, just be proactive brother. There’s been a few of us that have had to go through some scary health shit and at the end of the day, that’s the important stuff. Honkey nailed it regarding inflammation and awesome catch by AG. I just glanced at your labs looking for the test totals and missed it too. He’s the best.

Solid fellas weighing in here.

And lastly (and most importantly) nice work on the lady friend..I hope you know I was just teasing about posting pics. I’m a bit of a modern day sailor and have a few randoms (of which I shared) but would never share any of the one that’s most important to me. Seeing 24 and “soul sucking” excites and exhausts all at the same time. She’s a knockout, nice work.

I’m getting old…

Fire that doctor and get someone you can cultivate a good relationship with, that values your t levels as highly as your overall health. It can be a quest, but it’ll pay off in the long run. Keep us posted.

Gotta get the ugl figured out too eventually, that shit is definitely under dosed. Hit the UGL section, some good chatter lately and might be of interest.

Best

Yea I'll keep you all posted hoping it's nothing, I like showing off the old lady so no problems there either. I definitely appreciate all the advice. I'm pretty new to actually keeping up on my blood work when I was young I never gave a shit.

And yeah, I think I'm going to give the old three letter place a try that you and cyclon weighed in on. I was just trying to see if he ever got some blood work done on their product.

[Honkey_Kong]

Agreed,

I don’t think anyone is implying dooms day, just be proactive brother. There’s been a few of us that have had to go through some scary health shit and at the end of the day, that’s the important stuff. Honkey nailed it regarding inflammation and awesome catch by AG. I just glanced at your labs looking for the test totals and missed it too. He’s the best.

Solid fellas weighing in here.

And lastly (and most importantly) nice work on the lady friend..I hope you know I was just teasing about posting pics. I’m a bit of a modern day sailor and have a few randoms (of which I shared) but would never share any of the one that’s most important to me. Seeing 24 and “soul sucking” excites and exhausts all at the same time. She’s a knockout, nice work.

I’m getting old…

Fire that doctor and get someone you can cultivate a good relationship with, that values your t levels as highly as your overall health. It can be a quest, but it’ll pay off in the long run. Keep us posted.

Gotta get the ugl figured out too eventually, that shit is definitely under dosed. Hit the UGL section, some good chatter lately and might be of interest.

Best

I just try to ease the worrying, because I'm one of those people that will trip out and think the worst case scenario. I'm at that point where I will not check symptoms on WebMd for anything.

[Beefcheeks7]

I just try to ease the worrying, because I'm one of those people that will trip out and think the worst case scenario. I'm at that point where I will not check symptoms on WebMd for anything.

Yeah bro, not gonna lie for a few days after that CRP got mentioned I did some research that freaked me out, so the best bet is just to stay off the Internet imo. Almost any symptom you look up on Google says it's caused by cancer, or some other crazy disease.