Your first cycle

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-06-2023, 06:58 PM

At what age did you do your first cycle and why? Also what type of physical condition was your body in prior to the cycle and what was the outcome afterwards?

Not sure how to delete thread. Didn’t realize I was under nutrition & supplements. I reposted this under steroids .

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-06-2023, 07:33 PM

At what age did you do your first cycle and why? Also what type of physical condition was your body in prior to the cycle and what was the outcome afterwards?

**Cuz** · 02-06-2023, 08:42 PM

I was about 150 lb lean and 20 years old had been training a year. Some buddies were doing it and I wanted some size. I had no idea how to eat for gains and not really a mind muscle connection but I still grew like a weed. I wouldnt suggest going this route I may add

**teedoff** · 02-06-2023, 09:50 PM

I was 35, been training about 3 years. I was scared of needles most of my life, so did an oral only cycle. Knew nothing of dieting but gained 50lbs on my bench press so at that naive age I considered it a win. Lol

Thankfully I did research enough to do pct and had no side affects from anything I took.

**songdog** · 02-06-2023, 10:13 PM

I was around 24 Powerlifting in the USMC when I was introduced to AAS.I did Dbol and test.I dont suggest that for a 1st cycle now.But that was in the early 80s.

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-07-2023, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Cuz

I was about 150 lb lean and 20 years old had been training a year. Some buddies were doing it and I wanted some size. I had no idea how to eat for gains and not really a mind muscle connection but I still grew like a weed. I wouldnt suggest going this route I may add

Awesome, honest response man. Yea that eating correctly is definitely needed. It’s hard to understand that at 20 years old when you have all this garbage food surround you.

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-07-2023, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by teedoff

I was 35, been training about 3 years. I was scared of needles most of my life, so did an oral only cycle. Knew nothing of dieting but gained 50lbs on my bench press so at that naive age I considered it a win. Lol

Thankfully I did research enough to do pct and had no side affects from anything I took.

Awesome. I’m pretty scared of the side effects, trying to study and learn all I can prior to taking the dive (hence the reason for this thread).

I’ve done decided I’m going to only do Test my first cycle, but have yet to decide on the correct PCT to take and usage of them… I know there’s some good threads here

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-07-2023, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

I was around 24 Powerlifting in the USMC when I was introduced to AAS.I did Dbol and test.I dont suggest that for a 1st cycle now.But that was in the early 80s.

Semper Fi, served 06-10. So you had a decent start it sounds like powerlifting in the Corps. Yea I’m going to run Test and test only for my first cycle. Really just need to see how my body reacts to it and then later down the road may stack Dbol . The stack is a long ways down the road though. Thanks for the information.

**Honkey_Kong** · 02-07-2023, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by ScrappyWall28

At what age did you do your first cycle and why? Also what type of physical condition was your body in prior to the cycle and what was the outcome afterwards?

I was about 28, had been lifting since I was a teen and I was finally like "I'm going to do this" and so I got some superdrol off a website. I gained strength quickly and put on a few pounds (not as much as I was expecting to). But mostly I had horrible headaches, lethargy and lower back pain. It literally felt like somebody took a sledgehammer to my lumbar section of spine. Then of course afterwards I quickly lost everything I gained and then some and I waited probably a year before I did a real test-only cycle.

**teedoff** · 02-07-2023, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by ScrappyWall28

Awesome. I’m pretty scared of the side effects, trying to study and learn all I can prior to taking the dive (hence the reason for this thread).

I’ve done decided I’m going to only do Test my first cycle, but have yet to decide on the correct PCT to take and usage of them… I know there’s some good threads here

Aren't you on trt? Or going on it? If so, you won't need to run a pct. Just blast and then when your cycle is over, drop back down to your trt dose.

Plenty of threads here explaining that.

**songdog** · 02-07-2023, 12:00 PM

I was going to try that at one time but changed my mind.

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-07-2023, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I was about 28, had been lifting since I was a teen and I was finally like "I'm going to do this" and so I got some superdrol off a website. I gained strength quickly and put on a few pounds (not as much as I was expecting to). But mostly I had horrible headaches, lethargy and lower back pain. It literally felt like somebody took a sledgehammer to my lumbar section of spine. Then of course afterwards I quickly lost everything I gained and then some and I waited probably a year before I did a real test-only cycle.

So was all the sides affect’s because of the Superdrol? I’m assuming that it was.

Also, hosed the next cycle go with the Test only?

**ScrappyWall28** · 02-07-2023, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by teedoff

Aren't you on trt? Or going on it? If so, you won't need to run a pct. Just blast and then when your cycle is over, drop back down to your trt dose.

Plenty of threads here explaining that.

Yes, but I haven’t started yet. I’m just asking questions and trying to study for myself. Which you did bring up a question that I did have in mind. Can you run a cycle and then simply drop down to the TRT level & without running a PCT?

I had thoughts of just saving my TRT so that I could a 12 week cycle (as I don’t know a legit place to order Test).

Any advice I’m open for it. Thank you

**Cylon357** · 02-07-2023, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by ScrappyWall28

Yes, but I haven’t started yet. I’m just asking questions and trying to study for myself. Which you did bring up a question that I did have in mind. Can you run a cycle and then simply drop down to the TRT level & without running a PCT?

I had thoughts of just saving my TRT so that I could a 12 week cycle (as I don’t know a legit place to order Test).

Any advice I’m open for it. Thank you

This is known as "blast and cruise" when you are on trt. You "blast" at a higher dose or with add ons for a few weeks or so, then drop down and "cruise" at your trt dose.

Note that some of our trt doses look a little bit like a blast, but if the bloodwork looks good, rock on!

**Cylon357** · 02-07-2023, 04:02 PM

Dupe

**Fresh2death** · 02-07-2023, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cylon357

This is known as "blast and cruise" when you are on trt. You "blast" at a higher dose or with add ons for a few weeks or so, then drop down and "cruise" at your trt dose.

Note that some of our trt doses look a little bit like a blast, but if the bloodwork looks good, rock on!

Yup!

**Honkey_Kong** · 02-07-2023, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by ScrappyWall28

So was all the sides affect’s because of the Superdrol? I’m assuming that it was.

Also, hosed the next cycle go with the Test only?

Yeah, the sides were all the superdrol. You literally feel like you're sick on it. I had bloodwork done while I was on it too and my total test was in the low double digits. It might've been placebo, but my libido at the beginning was off the charts on it.

To be honest though, the strength gains were so good, if you can stand the awful sides (and if you supplement them with test) and your BP and RBC don't get too out of control, it might be worth doing. I'm not going to say to do it, because I'll never touch that shit again in my life, but yeah.

But let me tell you, on that shit, you'll feel like you're really sick 24/7 for the entire cycle.

**Honkey_Kong** · 02-07-2023, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by ScrappyWall28

Yes, but I haven’t started yet. I’m just asking questions and trying to study for myself. Which you did bring up a question that I did have in mind. Can you run a cycle and then simply drop down to the TRT level & without running a PCT?

I had thoughts of just saving my TRT so that I could a 12 week cycle (as I don’t know a legit place to order Test).

Any advice I’m open for it. Thank you

I'll tell you this much. The reason you have TRT is to treat a low-test condition. If you're not going to take your medicine or as much as you're supposed to take, you're just going to suffer from low-test again. For what? You're going to suffer from low-t all year just so you can blast some gear for a few weeks? I'm sure some people will disagree with me, but I don't think it's worth it.

You're better off waiting until you can find a dealer that you trust. Or better yet, just don't do gear. I mean what are you hoping to get from it? Some lean muscle mass? Push heavier weights? As far as AAS go, they do take a toll on your body. Take a look at some of the threads on here or on other steroid sites where you have some middle age men with some serious health problems. Is that extra 10lbs of muscle worth not getting to live long enough to see your kids grow up and have kids? The 28-year-old me would've never thought about that stuff. The 42-year-old me does.

**almostgone** · 02-11-2023, 03:27 AM

Merged a duplicate thread.

**Cuz** · 04-07-2023, 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=Danielimarm;7590719]ive been working out throughout high school im 20 years old. and im about to start my first cycle of h-drol. does anyone have some good advice for this product? thanks

No, actually. We do not.

**almostgone** · 04-07-2023, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danielimarm

ive been working out throughout high school im 20 years old. and im about to start my first cycle of h-drol. does anyone have some good advice for this product? thanks

If you continue to post links like that, you'll be escorted off the premises.

**Testie** · 04-10-2023, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by ScrappyWall28

At what age did you do your first cycle and why? Also what type of physical condition was your body in prior to the cycle and what was the outcome afterwards?

Not sure how to delete thread. Didn’t realize I was under nutrition & supplements. I reposted this under steroids.

I was in my early 20’s and had been training since age 15 or maybe a tad earlier, one cc of organon Sustanon 250 preloads for 10 weeks, in the 90’s I feel like the gear was stronger and I felt it big time, I could already bench 3 plates so I thought I had put in my time and reached my genetic potential before I tried gear and I was completely wrong about that and lost all gains pretty quickly

**Too-$mall** · 04-10-2023, 09:40 PM

As a junior Marine i bought pre workout off a Cpl that was real cool. it was like no other pre workout. i was really getting stronger and bigger, but i still under ate and didn’t know how to eat, lift, mind muscle, etc. i started loving that pre workout. it made me feel good! my SNCO threatened to test me for steroids . i just lol’d and said i was only using pre workout from the gnc on base because the base gnc had the same pre workout. little did i know it was laced with an oral steroid . after i ran out and in the middle my dick wasn’t working properly. i went to him for more like a dummy but he said hes not getting anymore. and that was my first experience… i was 26. joined late.

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Yeah, the sides were all the superdrol. You literally feel like you're sick on it. I had bloodwork done while I was on it too and my total test was in the low double digits. It might've been placebo, but my libido at the beginning was off the charts on it.

To be honest though, the strengthyy gains were so good, if you can stand the awful sides (and if you supplement them with test) and your BP and RBC don't get too out of control, it might be worth doing. I'm not going to say to do it, because I'll never touch that shit again in my life, but yeah.

But let me tell you, on that shit, you'll feel like you're really sick 24/7 for the entire cycle.

he’s not kidding. i had the exact same experience. awesome strength gains horrible sides. i wouldn’t use it again. But if I was 10 or 15 years younger I would and I would add testosterone . stupid to use this stuff without test, but i did cause i couldn’t find a steroid dealer and i was greedy for muscular development. pretty dumb cause i lost all those strength gains. that said I don’t think adding testosterone is going to make the sides any better. being natty not on cycle sucks. i decided to marry the needle 6 yesrs ago. she’s always close by now. know what i mean?