Next Cycle

[jjsevens]

Have my next appt with with my endo in April so going to start my summer cycle shortly after. I've always run the following go to cycle for 18 weeks :

500mg test E/week
300mg tren E/week
400mg mast E/week

I'm 6"3
245lbs.
15% BF
47

This would be like my 7th or 8th cycle now and finding that I don't see the results until way late in to the cycle, like 12 weeks in so wondering if my bodies getting used to this dose. I'm also cutting and starting my calorie deficit and cardio regimen. The goal is to get down to 10-12% bf range.

Should I increase my dose this time around, or try a different stack?

Thanks!

[Cylon357]

Maybe front load with some short esters for a few weeks, then drop when the longer ones kick in?

[Mooseman33]

so ur going to run then for 18 weeks? I realize its low dose but that's a long time.

[Cuz]

Why do want to run the long esters just dont wanna pin frequently?

[jjsevens]

Maybe front load with some short esters for a few weeks, then drop when the longer ones kick in?

Sorry for sounding dumb on the subject but not sure what you mean by that... Can you break it down for me?

[jjsevens]

so ur going to run then for 18 weeks? I realize its low dose but that's a long time.

Sorry updated my usual dose... Was a long day yesterday. Ya I only run it once a year so don't think it's unusually long... My understanding is most will run it for 14-16 weeks. Like I said I find it doesn't really kick in until way late for so I've always run it but longer...hence if I should increase my dose.

[jjsevens]

Why do want to run the long esters just dont wanna pin frequently?

No I always break it up and pin twice a week, just always went with enanthate.

[Cylon357]

Sorry for sounding dumb on the subject but not sure what you mean by that... Can you break it down for me?

Yes, do your planned cycle, but add say 50mg of prop esters of each compound for the first 4 weeks. You will feel these faster and by the 4 week point, you should start feeling the longer esters.

[jjsevens]

Yes, do your planned cycle, but add say 50mg of prop esters of each compound for the first 4 weeks. You will feel these faster and by the 4 week point, you should start feeling the longer esters.

Sorry dude, do you mean using say propionte instead of enanthate or cypionate? I've always just stuck to the same thing and never really toyed outside what I listed so don't really understand what you mean.

[jjsevens]

Double post

[Cylon357]

Sorry dude, do you mean using say propionte instead of enanthate or cypionate? I've always just stuck to the same thing and never really toyed outside what I listed so don't really understand what you mean.

No, I mean in addition to.

ADD some props at the beginning of your cycle, not REPLACE. Short esters will kick in faster and allow you to get more out the first few weeks. You drop the short ones a few weeks in after the longer esters have had time to kick in.

[scotty51312]

4 to 6 weeks of an oral kicker dbol, var or tbol, to start as long as you've had your liver levels checked.