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    Test with var

    Im well versed in my trt protocol,but as far as blast I could use some input.
    My first blast was 300 a week to test the waters. No ai needed . I know I could get away with 500 a week and still not an ai but what about adding 25 mg var a day?
    I read conflicting info on adding var to test because although a dht derivative, I read that it lowers shbg ,it can be a double edged sword .
    I would love to stack test/primo/var but no sources for primo so im stuck with the remaining two.
    Any one with experience on this stack and needing an ai vs not needing one with just test?
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    No idea on the combo but im eating var atm and im liking it. Only taking 20mg a day, one pill in the morning, one in the evening. Getting better pumps inthe gym, ive gained a little strength, and muscles feel more full and toned and hard, especially arms. I think with test base it should be classic combo

    The estrogen side effects vary from person to person as far as ive seen tho. One guy gets gyno at 500mg, other guy is fine on 1 gram a week. So you gonna have to do bloodwork to know
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    No idea on the combo but im eating var atm and im liking it. Only taking 20mg a day, one pill in the morning, one in the evening. Getting better pumps inthe gym, ive gained a little strength, and muscles feel more full and toned and hard, especially arms. I think with test base it should be classic combo

    The estrogen side effects vary from person to person as far as ive seen tho. One guy gets gyno at 500mg, other guy is fine on 1 gram a week. So you gonna have to do bloodwork to know
    How much test are you on?

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    Horrible and illogical cycle and idea. My mind is blown.

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    Haven't done test and var together other than trt dose levels when i was on the test gel. I did 2 var only cycles. I'll say running 75mg var a day for 12 weeks i noticed no side affects. But I developed some gyno on just 200mg test a week when I switched to trt injections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iranon View Post
    Horrible and illogical cycle and idea. My mind is blown.
    Please enlighten me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellshii View Post
    How much test are you on?
    Im not taking anything else just the var. So far, so good
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    Im not taking anything else just the var. So far, so good
    Oh my bad I just understood it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellshii View Post
    Im well versed in my trt protocol,but as far as blast I could use some input.
    My first blast was 300 a week to test the waters. No ai needed . I know I could get away with 500 a week and still not an ai but what about adding 25 mg var a day?
    I read conflicting info on adding var to test because although a dht derivative, I read that it lowers shbg ,it can be a double edged sword .
    I would love to stack test/primo/var but no sources for primo so im stuck with the remaining two.
    Any one with experience on this stack and needing an ai vs not needing one with just test?
    Var stacks well with test and some men use low dose in their "spicy" trt.

    Var can reduce estrogen and bind up SHBG. This can lead to elevated free testosterone which is good, but also raise DHT, which can be bad if it goes too high.

    Overall though, var is a very well tolerated compound. The issue may be finding real var, it is faked with dianabol sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Var stacks well with test and some men use low dose in their "spicy" trt.

    Var can reduce estrogen and bind up SHBG. This can lead to elevated free testosterone which is good, but also raise DHT, which can be bad if it goes too high.

    Overall though, var is a very well tolerated compound. The issue may be finding real var, it is faked with dianabol sometimes.
    Isnt it bad for the liver etc if you take orals for too long? Like as part of trt . I thought for orals 6-8 weeks was recomended and 12 weeks max
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    Isnt it bad for the liver etc if you take orals for too long? Like as part of trt . I thought for orals 6-8 weeks was recomended and 12 weeks max
    You should monitor blood work and trt dose is typically 5 to 10mg per day, not the 50mg or more some will take during cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Var stacks well with test and some men use low dose in their "spicy" trt.

    Var can reduce estrogen and bind up SHBG. This can lead to elevated free testosterone which is good, but also raise DHT, which can be bad if it goes too high.

    Overall though, var is a very well tolerated compound. The issue may be finding real var, it is faked with dianabol sometimes.
    Thank you. And the var will be through a clinic so it better be real.lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellshii View Post
    Thank you. And the var will be through a clinic so it better be real.lol
    If you dont mind me asking, what kind of prices are you seeing through your clinic and mg pill size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    If you dont mind me asking, what kind of prices are you seeing through your clinic and mg pill size?
    My clinic offers it for 400 bucks for a two month supply at 50 mg a day.
    Im gonna actually start at 25 a day so technically its a 4 month supply.
    Still pricey imo but I dont have to go through the trouble of having to get it from some source online .
    I mean maybe I should, but again,paranoid.
    And idk of anyone that can get it for me locally so clinic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    Im not taking anything else just the var. So far, so good
    If you are going to run var you should have a test base . Even if it is a low dose. I wouldn’t recommend running var without test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Third Tier View Post
    If you are going to run var you should have a test base . Even if it is a low dose. I wouldn’t recommend running var without test.
    I did a test run wuth 20 mg a day 1 month. I didnt feel any loss of libido or low test effects, i did feel positive edfect in muscles being more toned and better pumps. I also wert fron 7 reps to 10 reps with the same weight in a month wixh is huge increase cause ive been adding 1 rep per month lately. So all in all, it was a positive expirience for me
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    I’m running 30mg a day of Var + 125mg of test + 25mg a day of Proviron

    Feel great

    I’ve ran var at low doses for very long runs - I’m planning to be on about 3 months - as long as my guts hold up

    I figure it’s better than tren - it’s a part of my trt(tren replacement therapy)

    I get blood work often & donate often - we’ll see how it goes this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I’m running 30mg a day of Var + 125mg of test + 25mg a day of Proviron

    Feel great

    I’ve ran var at low doses for very long runs - I’m planning to be on about 3 months - as long as my guts hold up

    I figure it’s better than tren - it’s a part of my trt(tren replacement therapy)

    I get blood work often & donate often - we’ll see how it goes this year
    How old are you…if you don’t mind me asking. Was thinking of running a very similar stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Third Tier View Post
    How old are you…if you don’t mind me asking. Was thinking of running a very similar stack.

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    I take a gram of milk thistle daily + 2 Liv 52 D’s

    I still drink too much tho - but, I split my drinking from the var. Var in the morning & I don’t drink till night time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
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    I take a gram of milk thistle daily + 2 Liv 52 D’s

    I still drink too much tho - but, I split my drinking from the var. Var in the morning & I don’t drink till night time.
    I hear you with the drinking thing…Im 48 eat pretty clean and pretty consistent in the gym . But I now train with more of a functional approach. Still lift but not like when I was younger. But I do love to have a few.
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