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    Mild cycle planning

    16 week cycle. HGH use will continue for as long as possible. A drop down to TRT doses will follow after the 16 weeks. Goal of the cycle is for fat loss and for the healing properties of HGH and deca. Since even 50mg of Deca a week is enough to get it's healing properties, a dose of 150mg a week is placed due to the ease of use during syringe loading and also to add a little bit of a mass gainer/muscle preservation use during this mild cycle.

    150mg of Deca once a week
    300mg test enanthate once a week
    200mg Masteron enanthate once a week
    50mg of anavar daily for 8 weeks
    0.5 Adex every third day
    750IU HCG weekly
    3.33IU HGH daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Positiveweight View Post
    16 week cycle. HGH use will continue for as long as possible. A drop down to TRT doses will follow after the 16 weeks. Goal of the cycle is for fat loss and for the healing properties of HGH and deca. Since even 50mg of Deca a week is enough to get it's healing properties, a dose of 150mg a week is placed due to the ease of use during syringe loading and also to add a little bit of a mass gainer/muscle preservation use during this mild cycle.

    150mg of Deca once a week
    300mg test enanthate once a week
    200mg Masteron enanthate once a week
    50mg of anavar daily for 8 weeks
    0.5 Adex every third day
    750IU HCG weekly
    3.33IU HGH daily
    I like the IDEA of this cycle but I do have a few questions.

    First, that seems like a big dose of adex. You have both masteron and anavar in play with only 300 test... in other words, this feels like a cycle that will bottom out your estrogen. That will limit your gains and also weaken your immune system. This will also potentially negate the healing properties you are looking to obtain.

    Second, that is an odd dose of HGH. How did you get there? Do you plan AM or PM dosing? One shot or two?

    Finally, all of your steroid injections are once per week... Are you planning on doing everything at once or 3 different shots per week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I like the IDEA of this cycle but I do have a few questions.

    First, that seems like a big dose of adex. You have both masteron and anavar in play with only 300 test... in other words, this feels like a cycle that will bottom out your estrogen. That will limit your gains and also weaken your immune system. This will also potentially negate the healing properties you are looking to obtain.

    Second, that is an odd dose of HGH. How did you get there? Do you plan AM or PM dosing? One shot or two?

    Finally, all of your steroid injections are once per week... Are you planning on doing everything at once or 3 different shots per week?
    HGH is dosed at 3.33IU because there are 10IU's per vial and want each vile to be used within three days. A lower dosing to an even 2IU will be considered if recommended.

    Removal of Adex for the first 6-8 weeks is a possible alternative? This way I can get my bloods checked out after 6-8 weeks and assess rather Adex is even needed.

    Preferably would like to do all oil intramuscular shots on Monday because it's just easier. However the traditional Monday to Thursday schedule is something I'm open too.

    HCG will be Monday Wednesday Friday.

    Deca can be increased to 300mg if necessary. I've slipped my L3/L4, L4/L5 and L5/S1 disk during some outrageous lifting at my local YMCA. 780 lbs leg pressing, aggressive T bar rowing and to the machine hack squatting. A 340lbs hex bar deadlift was the final give. Muscles were ready but not the body. Each slip is mild and may not need corticosteroid shots but I'm pushing for it because I love lifting intensely so much that I'm prone for another slip. Physical therapy and having my hex bar deadlift form checked out will be done and then some as my form may not be the issue. It's unknown right now.

    HGH use is not only for fat loss but for cell recovery purposes... The primary reason for the use of Deca is pretty much for it's healing properties.

    Hope that's enough insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Positiveweight View Post
    HGH is dosed at 3.33IU because there are 10IU's per vial and want each vile to be used within three days. A lower dosing to an even 2IU will be considered if recommended.

    Removal of Adex for the first 6-8 weeks is a possible alternative? This way I can get my bloods checked out after 6-8 weeks and assess rather Adex is even needed.

    Preferably would like to do all oil intramuscular shots on Monday because it's just easier. However the traditional Monday to Thursday schedule is something I'm open too.

    HCG will be Monday Wednesday Friday.

    Deca can be increased to 300mg if necessary. I've slipped my L3/L4, L4/L5 and L5/S1 disk during some outrageous lifting at my local YMCA. 780 lbs leg pressing, aggressive T bar rowing and to the machine hack squatting. A 340lbs hex bar deadlift was the final give. Muscles were ready but not the body. Each slip is mild and may not need corticosteroid shots but I'm pushing for it because I love lifting intensely so much that I'm prone for another slip. Physical therapy and having my hex bar deadlift form checked out will be done and then some as my form may not be the issue. It's unknown right now.

    HGH use is not only for fat loss but for cell recovery purposes... The primary reason for the use of Deca is pretty much for it's healing properties.

    Hope that's enough insight.
    I think it is smart to hold off on the adex until blood work. My guess is you won't need it at all at those doses.

    BUT

    If you are having some disk issues, I don't think I would be cycling now. Let that heal, maybe add some deca and hgh to your trt, but give your back time to heal up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I think it is smart to hold off on the adex until blood work. My guess is you won't need it at all at those doses.

    BUT

    If you are having some disk issues, I don't think I would be cycling now. Let that heal, maybe add some deca and hgh to your trt, but give your back time to heal up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I think it is smart to hold off on the adex until blood work. My guess is you won't need it at all at those doses.

    BUT

    If you are having some disk issues, I don't think I would be cycling now. Let that heal, maybe add some deca and hgh to your trt, but give your back time to heal up.
    The irony is that the whole point of Deca combined with HGH use is to help support physical therapy/recovery. I'm forced to stop deadlifting and barbell rows or at least avoid heavy lifts and do high repetitions with light weights.

    It'll probably be worth paying for or hiring a personal trainer to examine my compound/heavy lifts for proper form and execution just to eliminate incorrect form as a possibility.

    The benefit of using Deca on top of everything else is I plan on doing lower back extensions until I just can't do anymore. Very very very slowly add plates during progression of strength and endurance. I mean really ****ing develop a Christmas tree with all the Christmas lights and the angel on top. Probably do some glute and hamstring development as well.

    If anyone else has some suggestions for strengthening auxiliary muscles used during deadlifts, reverse hack squats and leg pressing please speak away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Positiveweight View Post
    The irony is that the whole point of Deca combined with HGH use is to help support physical therapy/recovery. I'm forced to stop deadlifting and barbell rows or at least avoid heavy lifts and do high repetitions with light weights.

    It'll probably be worth paying for or hiring a personal trainer to examine my compound/heavy lifts for proper form and execution just to eliminate incorrect form as a possibility.

    The benefit of using Deca on top of everything else is I plan on doing lower back extensions until I just can't do anymore. Very very very slowly add plates during progression of strength and endurance. I mean really ****ing develop a Christmas tree with all the Christmas lights and the angel on top. Probably do some glute and hamstring development as well.

    If anyone else has some suggestions for strengthening auxiliary muscles used during deadlifts, reverse hack squats and leg pressing please speak away.
    There are always Good Mornings, low cable row, leg curling, Romanian deadlifts, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Positiveweight View Post
    16 week cycle. HGH use will continue for as long as possible. A drop down to TRT doses will follow after the 16 weeks. Goal of the cycle is for fat loss and for the healing properties of HGH and deca. Since even 50mg of Deca a week is enough to get it's healing properties, a dose of 150mg a week is placed due to the ease of use during syringe loading and also to add a little bit of a mass gainer/muscle preservation use during this mild cycle.

    150mg of Deca once a week
    300mg test enanthate once a week
    200mg Masteron enanthate once a week
    50mg of anavar daily for 8 weeks
    0.5 Adex every third day
    750IU HCG weekly
    3.33IU HGH daily
    Davi this is hardly a "mild cycle"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Davi this is hardly a "mild cycle"
    When you stack everything together I guess I can see this. I know it's a cycle my body can handle just from previous use. But I will say any higher and it's not that I necessarily couldn't handle it. I just would rather preserve higher dosage for later on.

    What is throwing it over the top? I'm assuming the Deca and perhaps the 3.33IU?

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