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[DYEBurnNotice]

So my last cycle was 500 Test, 300 Tren A, and 50mg Anadrol. I got strong as f dropped to 13% from 26% bf but old injury ruined half the cycle. Knee gave out and pulled my groin and lower abs. MRI later no hernia's but it was a long recovery. I had to stop so I am still cruising at 200mg Test and 500UI hCG.

Currently sitting at 18% bf ( i know high)
204 Lbs

Next cycle is going to be 500 Test ( 250c/250e mix), Boldenone 750, tbol 50mg with keeping the 500ui hCG a week. Also on 5mg Cialis daily (rx grade from doc)

I don't want to go back on tren even though it was pretty nice only got tren cough a couple of times but the coming off part was a fucking nightmare. I already have insomnia but holy shit I feel like utter crap I have heard good and bad things about EQ but not wanting the crap sides I had when I came off tren.

[Honkey_Kong]

So my last cycle was 500 Test, 300 Tren A, and 50mg Anadrol. I got strong as f dropped to 13% from 26% bf but old injury ruined half the cycle. Knee gave out and pulled my groin and lower abs. MRI later no hernia's but it was a long recovery. I had to stop so I am still cruising at 200mg Test and 500UI hCG.

Currently sitting at 18% bf ( i know high)
204 Lbs

Next cycle is going to be 500 Test ( 250c/250e mix), Boldenone 750, tbol 50mg with keeping the 500ui hCG a week. Also on 5mg Cialis daily (rx grade from doc)

I don't want to go back on tren even though it was pretty nice only got tren cough a couple of times but the coming off part was a fucking nightmare. I already have insomnia but holy shit I feel like utter crap I have heard good and bad things about EQ but not wanting the crap sides I had when I came off tren.

What kind of goals do you have for this cycle?

[Cuz]

So my last cycle was 500 Test, 300 Tren A, and 50mg Anadrol. I got strong as f dropped to 13% from 26% bf but old injury ruined half the cycle. Knee gave out and pulled my groin and lower abs. MRI later no hernia's but it was a long recovery. I had to stop so I am still cruising at 200mg Test and 500UI hCG.

Currently sitting at 18% bf ( i know high)
204 Lbs

Next cycle is going to be 500 Test ( 250c/250e mix), Boldenone 750, tbol 50mg with keeping the 500ui hCG a week. Also on 5mg Cialis daily (rx grade from doc)

I don't want to go back on tren even though it was pretty nice only got tren cough a couple of times but the coming off part was a fucking nightmare. I already have insomnia but holy shit I feel like utter crap I have heard good and bad things about EQ but not wanting the crap sides I had when I came off tren.

Test tren and drol is a REALLY strong cycle. Its one of my fave cycles actually because it works but the sides are horrible. Id never advise someone to start gear at 26% bf, at that bodyfat you need diet and cardio until you get a decent base. Cutting your bf in half is super impressive tho you should post up some before and afters

As for test and eq , you’re running more than I am so imo thats a tad heavy on the gear. I dont think your quite ready for that much gear, you could probably get results with half that dose tbh. Less is more , put the work in, eat right. At least 6 meals, cutting deficit and bulking surplus keep it simple.

[Mooseman33]

300 mg tren A is alot on the mental sides, I could not imagine it anymore....yes im old.

coming off then always let me finally sleep. On it my sleep sucks, soon as it clears within couple days I start to sleep again.

[Honkey_Kong]

Let's go over your stats here.

You're 36 years old
5'7 204lbs
18% fat

I don't know how you're measuring your bodyfat or if it's even correct. But your lean weight is 167.28lbs And if you dropped 16lbs of fat you'd be right around the 10% mark.

What I would recommend is getting your bloodwork done to make sure you don't have diabetes or low test. If you have either (or both), treating those would by itself help your bodyfat problem. But at the end of the day, you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight that that's whether you're on or off steroids. That means no more McDonald's for lunch, cut back on the potato chips. Drink water instead of soda.

[songdog]

I agree with Cuz you are running way too much gear.Guys can put on great size without all that gear.You are only going to get so big on each cycle no matter how much you take.Cycles like you did are for guys at a sticking point hence the Tren.

[Cylon357]

Let's go over your stats here.

You're 36 years old
5'7 204lbs
18% fat

I don't know how you're measuring your bodyfat or if it's even correct. But your lean weight is 167.28lbs And if you dropped 16lbs of fat you'd be right around the 10% mark.

What I would recommend is getting your bloodwork done to make sure you don't have diabetes or low test. If you have either (or both), treating those would by itself help your bodyfat problem. But at the end of the day, you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight that that's whether you're on or off steroids. That means no more McDonald's for lunch, cut back on the potato chips. Drink water instead of soda.

If OP is 5'7", 204lbs and 18% body fat, then he looks like young Franco in the off season or young Ed Coan on the daily - neither of which is too shabby for off cycle.

I wonder where that bodyfat measurement is coming from, too...

[Cylon357]

So my last cycle was 500 Test, 300 Tren A, and 50mg Anadrol. I got strong as f dropped to 13% from 26% bf but old injury ruined half the cycle. Knee gave out and pulled my groin and lower abs. MRI later no hernia's but it was a long recovery. I had to stop so I am still cruising at 200mg Test and 500UI hCG.

Currently sitting at 18% bf ( i know high)
204 Lbs

Next cycle is going to be 500 Test ( 250c/250e mix), Boldenone 750, tbol 50mg with keeping the 500ui hCG a week. Also on 5mg Cialis daily (rx grade from doc)

I don't want to go back on tren even though it was pretty nice only got tren cough a couple of times but the coming off part was a fucking nightmare. I already have insomnia but holy shit I feel like utter crap I have heard good and bad things about EQ but not wanting the crap sides I had when I came off tren.

OP, I don't see a question in there... Did I miss it?

That 500mg per ml (why the C and E blend, BTW?) is going to have some bite to it. Have you used it before?

[Honkey_Kong]

If OP is 5'7", 204lbs and 18% body fat, then he looks like young Franco in the off season or young Ed Coan on the daily - neither of which is too shabby for off cycle.

I wonder where that bodyfat measurement is coming from, too...

Yeah, it's been my observation on here that very few people asking for advice ever had an accurate measurement of their bodyfat done. Most of them guesstimate it to be way lower than it actually is. I wouldn't doubt they have bathroom scales like I have that measure your BF when you step on it. And those are about as inaccurate as they get. Hell, you'll get a different result from them if you measure it before and after you take a shower.

[Honkey_Kong]

Test tren and drol is a REALLY strong cycle. Its one of my fave cycles actually because it works but the sides are horrible. Id never advise someone to start gear at 26% bf, at that bodyfat you need diet and cardio until you get a decent base. Cutting your bf in half is super impressive tho you should post up some before and afters

As for test and eq , you’re running more than I am so imo thats a tad heavy on the gear. I dont think your quite ready for that much gear, you could probably get results with half that dose tbh. Less is more , put the work in, eat right. At least 6 meals, cutting deficit and bulking surplus keep it simple.

A lot of noobs these days seem to think that more gear = more results. After a certain point, it takes a lot of gear to make smaller gains. Meanwhile they're getting way worse of sides and desensitizing their bodies to the androgens so they get worse results in future cycles.

And like you said diet and training is the real difference maker.

[Mooseman33]

these kids are fucking themselves up. this new generation thinks they can do everything better, while not learning from all of our mistakes.

we made them, listen to us.

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