My New Blast Bulk Cycle

**quacky** · 08-20-2023, 11:45 AM

i have been resting cruise with a testo dosage of 125mg per week for about 4 months.
i'm starting a new bulking cycle and this is how my dosages are

per week
1-20 - 500MG Testo Ent.
1-20 - 500MG EQ
4-14 - 300MG NPP (10 week) (The reason I added npp at week 4 is to wait for the high dosage testosterone to mix into the blood.)

based on my blood tests i can use half a tablet of arimidex and cabaser weekly.
What are your thoughts on this cycle? Is there anything you recommend?

**Cuz** · 08-20-2023, 01:20 PM

Unless you are on trt and get frequent bloodwork i would not recommend 20 week cycles

**quacky** · 08-20-2023, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Cuz

Unless you are on trt and get frequent bloodwork i would not recommend 20 week cycles

I'm doing trt. I will be checking my prolactin-e2 2 weeks after hitting npp to adjust my cabaser dosage. after i plan to have a blood test every 1.5 months.

**Scorpion0922** · 08-20-2023, 06:53 PM

Andrew Berry standard cycle.

I'd agree to go less than 20 weeks.

**songdog** · 08-21-2023, 09:09 PM

Your gains will lessen with time on.Plus being on that long isnt good for your body.

**tbjake34** · 08-24-2023, 01:27 PM

dude thats a good stack, id wait to add adex unless your a converter cuz eq will lower your e2 a lot so just wait until bloods like you said. if it was me id up the test to at least 600 or 750 and then run a 16 weeker unless you plan on staying on trt then fuck it run a 20 weeker. you might find you want to def up the test at some point especially for a bulk im a huge believer in high test for mass and thickness there is just nothing better for size IME I was my biggest on a gram of test and i felt great. Ask any dude whos massive what drug gives the best mass and thickness they will all say high test guranteed. test is king baby

edit: you could even throw in an oral the first 4 weeks like dbol or anadrol or tbol to add to the stack and maxamize it even more

**almostgone** · 08-24-2023, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

dude thats a good stack, id wait to add adex unless your a converter cuz eq will lower your e2 a lot so just wait until bloods like you said. if it was me id up the test to at least 600 or 750 and then run a 16 weeker unless you plan on staying on trt then fuck it run a 20 weeker. you might find you want to def up the test at some point especially for a bulk im a huge believer in high test for mass and thickness there is just nothing better for size IME I was my biggest on a gram of test and i felt great. Ask any dude whos massive what drug gives the best mass and thickness they will all say high test guranteed. test is king baby

edit: you could even throw in an oral the first 4 weeks like dbol or anadrol or tbol to add to the stack and maxamize it even more

I don't see EQ lowering estrogen. A lower conversion rate to E2 than testosterone ? Yes. EQ magically lowering E2 on its own? No.

I could see masteron lowering E2, but not EQ.

**tbjake34** · 08-24-2023, 02:50 PM

read this, its interesting, but eq seems to crash e2. That would explain the anxiety issues it can cause around week 8-10. Im not saying this is 100% the case but i have noticed anxity on it and im starting it soon and will be pulling bloods to see if it really does lower e2 that much., this guys e2 was under 5 on 750test, 500eq and 400 primo. Like i said i cant say this is the case for every person but its still interested and woouldnt you say you had low e sides running EQ? I just felt off on eq and im curious if thats why

Sorry, but no links to other AAS boards except for very unusual circumstances. It's been a longstanding rule.

**Cuz** · 08-24-2023, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

read this, its interesting, but eq seems to crash e2. That would explain the anxiety issues it can cause around week 8-10. Im not saying this is 100% the case but i have noticed anxity on it and im starting it soon and will be pulling bloods to see if it really does lower e2 that much., this guys e2 was under 5 on 750test, 500eq and 400 primo. Like i said i cant say this is the case for every person but its still interested and woouldnt you say you had low e sides running EQ? I just felt off on eq and im curious if thats why

The lowered estrogen came from the primo not the EQ its conversion rate is half of test but it doesnt have any anti e2 properties like mast or primo

**tbjake34** · 08-24-2023, 04:42 PM

yes but according to this guy hes saying that eq is the reason primo lowers e2, So say you run a test primo cycle , according to him that raised his e2 BUT when he added eq it crashed his e2 under 5... so what does this mean? idk.. i think its person to person will vary greatly but i added 300mg primo to my eq stack and im going to see for myself cuz I love eq but around week 8 i start to feel weird and im curious if this is why.

edit: didnt mean to derail thread just wanted to mention to op that i have seen cases of crashed e2 from eq its worth mentioning

**Mooseman33** · 08-25-2023, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

yes but according to this guy hes saying that eq is the reason primo lowers e2, So say you run a test primo cycle , according to him that raised his e2 BUT when he added eq it crashed his e2 under 5... so what does this mean? idk.. i think its person to person will vary greatly but i added 300mg primo to my eq stack and im going to see for myself cuz I love eq but around week 8 i start to feel weird and im curious if this is why.

edit: didnt mean to derail thread just wanted to mention to op that i have seen cases of crashed e2 from eq its worth mentioning

be careful how you word things bud. what you told the OP was a definite statement that EQ lowers e2. You did not mention what you said above.

**tbjake34** · 08-29-2023, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

be careful how you word things bud. what you told the OP was a definite statement that EQ lowers e2. You did not mention what you said above.

so ive been researching EQ lowering e2 and it seems to lower e2 in most people so im going to be starting it soon and pulling bloods week 10 to see where my e2 is at. Im pretty damn sure it loweres e2 for me as well because the anxiety issue, but just do a simple google search on eq lowering e2 theres some more info and articles about it

**Cuz** · 08-29-2023, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

so ive been researching EQ lowering e2 and it seems to lower e2 in most people so im going to be starting it soon and pulling bloods week 10 to see where my e2 is at. Im pretty damn sure it loweres e2 for me as well because the anxiety issue, but just do a simple google search on eq lowering e2 theres some more info and articles about it

It DOES NOT lower e2 in “most people” , most people who take aas in the real world dont even know to get bloodwork done while on cycle. Now, here at the forum there are guys here that will. Ive never heard of anyone usinf EQ as an anti estrogen compound. This molecule does aramotise (convert to estrogen) 50% of the rate at which testosterone does we all knew that right.

So I did some research myself on lowering estrogen properties and found only one way this could be possible by a metabolite boldenon produces

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...._schanzer.pdf

I still personally wouldn’t recommend it to lower estrogen although if you have bloods and you can prove the EQ soley lowered your e2 then by all means do it. Yes, not every individual reacts the same to these compounds obviously. But as a general rule, we dont tell people to use EQ in place of an AI. Hope this helps

**tbjake34** · 08-29-2023, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Cuz

It DOES NOT lower e2 in “most people” , most people who take aas in the real world dont even know to get bloodwork done while on cycle. Now, here at the forum there are guys here that will. Ive never heard of anyone usinf EQ as an anti estrogen compound. This molecule does aramotise (convert to estrogen) 50% of the rate at which testosterone does we all knew that right.

So I did some research myself on lowering estrogen properties and found only one way this could be possible by a metabolite boldenon produces

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...._schanzer.pdf

I still personally wouldn’t recommend it to lower estrogen although if you have bloods and you can prove the EQ soley lowered your e2 then by all means do it. Yes, not every individual reacts the same to these compounds obviously. But as a general rule, we dont tell people to use EQ in place of an AI. Hope this helps

how come you can post link but not me. And yes it does bro do a google search about eq lowering e2, im sure you can find some articles about it

**tbjake34** · 08-29-2023, 11:52 AM

what happened to this board there used to be a ton of vets on here with a lot of information to share and actually helped people , almostgone is the only one i see post still from back when i got help on here. cuz gear information is alwasy changing you need to be always be aware that thres new artcles and new studies always being put out there. for example theyre finding out a lot about eq latley because people have decided to reseaerch eq more. just because thats what used to be thought about eq doesnt mean that hasent changed., it is now pretty well known that eq lowers e2 somehow we dont know exaclty. its like anadrol doesnt aromatise but it causes gyno why? we dont know but we think anadrol itself interacts with e2 receptors

**Cuz** · 08-29-2023, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

how come you can post link but not me. And yes it does bro do a google search about eq lowering e2, im sure you can find some articles about it

You seem to be one of those guys that pretty much know everything already. Ive met alot like you in my time, thats ok tho. Im done trying to help. Good luck in your life. Thats the nicest way I can put it.

**almostgone** · 08-29-2023, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

how come you can post link but not me. And yes it does bro do a google search about eq lowering e2, im sure you can find some articles about it

Because his was an educational related link. You posted a link to another AAS forum ( against the rules and disrespectful to the sysadmin and *Admin* of this board).

If you have links to scholarly articles regarding a subject being discussed, you are free to post them. Just don't post links to another AAS forum, .com type links, or vendor links. Scholarly links like pubmed, NIH, medscape, etc. are fine and add to the discussion.

Again, EQ doesn't lower E2. It just doesn't aromatize at the rate testosterone does so lower E2' values are seen.

**quacky** · 10-09-2023, 02:14 PM

Hello, my blood values are like this. Npp I finished 1 vial and it's been 1 month.i have 1 more vial. I have been using Testo-Bolde for 2 months.My prolactin has hardly increased, I suspect it is npp fake. But my estradiol level has increased more than ever.
I did not experience any gyno symptoms. Can you comment on my blood test? My insulin level very low too(is it bad?)

.. (The red ones are my non-reference values)
Don't get hung up on the testo value. It can measure a maximum of 1062.

My medicine brands:
Testo Ent. (Pharmacy/Iranian)
Boldenone (Dragon Pharma/Thailand)
NPP (Optimum Pharma/Turkey production)