anadrol or dbol? or both?

Guys, back after 2 years off gear, training, and food. Im fully recoevered right now. But im gettng that itch again to get back on gear and training and dieting again. So here is my cycle planned on starting it in about just a few days test 750mg, eq 600mg, primo 300mg, weekly and i have british dispensery dbol and androlic so im asking what would be a better kick start? thai pinks, androlic, or both ? One or the other at 100mg or both at 50mg each? Im running a 20 weeker unless the eq gives me anxiety ill pull bloods at week 8 and see where my e2 is at and make changes if its too low causing the anxiety. thanks boys

So, you havent trained or dieted in 2 years and you’re wanting to run THAT cycle? Bro I wouldnt run that much gear like ever, my body just couldnt handle it. Not a good idea man especially given your recent history

yeah im going to run that cycle. I went hard for 4 years blast and cruising my cycles where 750-1g test with 300-600mg of an anabolic with an oral 5 on 5 off ive been huge before 250-260 range. My diet is the easy part for me cuz i can put food down like a mother fucker. but thats not my goal this time im about 210 right now and i want to be like 220-230 mark but leaner than i was and just be in good shape and look good and feel good. Being 250+ is unconfortable for me anyway and im 30 i have no desire to get on stage anymore so i will not chase size this cycle maybe in the coming years ill push back up aroun 250 and try and lean that out as much as possible just to see.

what do you recommend 25mg test weekly with 1 mg dbol a day? haha jk i forgot how conservative you guys are on here you would never run that much? bud then youll never be huge ( if thats your goal) once you max out food and training whats next? gear has to go up its simple brother the body can only process so much food. same with gear and for me personally my sweet spot is around 1 g test with 4-600 mg of an anablolic and an oral that is my sweet spot where my training is crazy good, my recovery is so fast i dont get sore, and my appetite is very high and i just grow like crazy when i get everything in sync like that. im basically doing my sweet spot cycle here just throwing in a little primo to help keep e2 down without an ai. but i will pull bloods and see if im too low i will obviouslt keep the oral in there

edit: if you think thats a big cycle than you have been leaving so much on the table dude honeslty do you really think thats a big cycle? shit by the time the injectables kick in ill be 225 easy ...

anyway back to the quesuton.. Dbol anadrol or both? anyone have experience with this i know there are some guys who have done both together haha

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

what do you recommend 25mg test weekly with 1 mg dbol a day? haha jk i forgot how conservative you guys are on here you would never run that much? bud then youll never be huge ( if thats your goal) once you max out food and training whats next? gear has to go up its simple brother the body can only process so much food. same with gear and for me personally my sweet spot is around 1 g test with 4-600 mg of an anablolic and an oral that is my sweet spot where my training is crazy good, my recovery is so fast i dont get sore, and my appetite is very high and i just grow like crazy when i get everything in sync like that. im basically doing my sweet spot cycle here just throwing in a little primo to help keep e2 down without an ai. but i will pull bloods and see if im too low i will obviouslt keep the oral in there

edit: if you think thats a big cycle than you have been leaving so much on the table dude honeslty do you really think thats a big cycle? shit by the time the injectables kick in ill be 225 easy ...

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Ok well, im around 240 and 12%… and the most gear ive done was 1.3 grams and that was prepping for PL meet..but hey if more is better go for it. Its just not for me personally actually anything over a gram is too much for me
As for a recreational guy asking advice on doing dbol and adrol together I think is just simply not logical thinking. I was 247 in my avatar taking 20mg dbol daily with 200 tren weekly. And trust me I haven’t left an ounce of muscle tissue on the table, i over eat and over train to make sure this dont happen.
The only time I have ran two orals is last two weeks before a meet and felt like total dog shit thats whith hydrating like a fucking whale along with NAC and tudca.

Maybe someone else with some knowledge will give you the answer your looking for although I seriously doubt it. Good luck with your cycle, keep some ibuprofen on hand for that tendon pain you are about to endure

ok sorry you have better genetics then me or anyone for that matter since you can use 200mg of tren and be 250lbs lean sorry bro my bad me and phil health will step aside.. seriouslt stop lying about your doses dude trying to seem like yuo have elite of the elite genetics i cant stand dudes like you i bet youre one of those guys who just knocks everyone no matter what they say cuz ur genetics are so fucking good you can use .1 mg of dbol and 2mg of tren a year and be 250 ripped so you assume evryone wants to take that apprach like derrik from more dates sayss of 250mg of test is a cycle blah blah that aint no cycle wtf

you go around telling any dude who is big you use 200mg of tren with 20mg of dbol they will laugh in your face bro and who the fuck runs tren solo dude whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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ok sorry you have better genetics then me or anyone for that matter since you can use 200mg of tren and be 250lbs lean sorry bro my bad me and phil health will step aside.. seriouslt stop lying about your doses dude trying to seem like yuo have elite of the elite genetics i cant stand dudes like you i bet youre one of those guys who just knocks everyone no matter what they say cuz ur genetics are so fucking good you can use .1 mg of dbol and 2mg of tren a year and be 250 ripped so you assume evryone wants to take that apprach like derrik from more dates sayss of 250mg of test is a cycle blah blah that aint no cycle wtf

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Lose the attitude. The man told you what his dosages are. You asked for input and you got it. If you don't like the answer you get, don't ask the questions or either read the response and move along.

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

you go around telling any dude who is big you use 200mg of tren with 20mg of dbol they will laugh in your face bro and who the fuck runs tren solo dude whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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He's on TRT. You would know that if you were a consistent poster. You have a little over a thousand posts in roughly 17.5 years.
He's a contributing member; you, on the other hand, are not.

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

you go around telling any dude who is big you use 200mg of tren with 20mg of dbol they will laugh in your face bro and who the fuck runs tren solo dude whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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I have no reason to lie, higher dosages arent for me believe me ive tried the whole more is better approach and it just makes my body toxic. Not everyone is the same, I dont have elite genetics by no means hah I would rank my genetics a 6 on a 1-10
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Really man with that childish attitude you have, you probably arent going to get alot of useful info. You’re pushing too much gear plain and simple. Gear is but only an aide, yes we need it to help us accelerate gains but its not about how much you take. Sorry to offend you , just speaking straight facts.

If you are this hot headed without gear I would hate to see your attitude while ON.

ok man look.. i know you dont feel well on high gear and you dont feel you need it. but that is a very unsual case. most guys sweet spot is somewhere bewteen 1.4-2 weekly dosages. I just dont like being told im running too much gear when ive been doing this shit for a looong ass time and ive tried smaller doses and i know exactly what works for me i have everything down and ive maxed out almost everything besides drugs. Im not saying more is better im saying find YOUR sweet spot and mine is what i posted and yours is what you posted although hard to believe and i still say youre leaving a lot on the table or your using the wrong compounds or something else is going on if you dont feel good on more gear (maybe pull bloods and check your e2, hct, rbc,) and see whata going on because i honeslty think if you dont feel good on moderate to high doses then i would be willing to bet its something with your blood work or youre on the wrong compounds. im not offended im just ready to get back on cycle im srarting to freak out

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He's on TRT. You would know that if you were a consistent poster. You have a little over a thousand posts in roughly 17.5 years.
He's a contributing member; you, on the other hand, are not.

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'yes but i have a ton of knowlege and can help a ton of people.. Ive been out of the game for a while but i have a lot of expiernece and i can help with harm reduction trust me i dont push high doses on other people ever i push what makes guys feel good and have energy and have a good appetite and i focus on compounds that work for you and some people dont seem to understand you should feel aamzing on cycle if you dont there is something wrong. Cuz is jacked no doubt im sure he has knowlage but i think he uses more then he says especially in his photo

and guys whats wrong with running dbol and drol together? ive heard that its pretty freaking awsome from a few guys

I apologize cuz i just have been wanting to get back on my gear so bad and i cant deciede which oral to use and its stressing me out.

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

'yes but i have a ton of knowlege and can help a ton of people.. Ive been out of the game for a while but i have a lot of expiernece and i can help with harm reduction trust me i dont push high doses on other people ever i push what makes guys feel good and have energy and have a good appetite and i focus on compounds that work for you and some people dont seem to understand you should feel aamzing on cycle if you dont there is something wrong. Cuz is jacked no doubt im sure he has knowlage but i think he uses more then he says especially in his photo

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Really haven't seen the knowledge yet, but over time it may show.

Just don't freak out and fly off the handle when you don't like the responses. If you want to run multi-gram cycles, have at it. However, you'll find that most here don't find it necessary.

Actually, in the last 19+ years that I've been here, guys that run high dose cycles for non-competitive lifting are usually the ones that end up with problems.

Cuz uses compounds to hit his PL goals and it works for him.

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

and guys whats wrong with running dbol and drol together? ive heard that its pretty freaking awsome from a few guys

I apologize cuz i just have been wanting to get back on my gear so bad and i cant deciede which oral to use and its stressing me out.

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It can be hell on the blood pressure and rough on the liver. Also, some find it actually kills the appetite which is counterproductive to growth.

Ive ran both dbol and anadrol, i prever dbol because it find it more effective for gaining size, and the strength gains are comparable.

i like anadrol, but i love dbol

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

ok sorry you have better genetics then me or anyone for that matter since you can use 200mg of tren and be 250lbs lean sorry bro my bad me and phil health will step aside.. seriouslt stop lying about your doses dude trying to seem like yuo have elite of the elite genetics i cant stand dudes like you i bet youre one of those guys who just knocks everyone no matter what they say cuz ur genetics are so fucking good you can use .1 mg of dbol and 2mg of tren a year and be 250 ripped so you assume evryone wants to take that apprach like derrik from more dates sayss of 250mg of test is a cycle blah blah that aint no cycle wtf

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So what's the point of this thread? You wanted advice, but when the man told you his opinion and what he has done, you come up with this bullshit attitude.

Go have your temper tantrum on Derek's YouTube channel.

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Originally Posted by JTP$

Ive ran both dbol and anadrol, i prever dbol because it find it more effective for gaining size, and the strength gains are comparable.

i like anadrol, but i love dbol

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The last time I ran dbol, I was sick to my stomach the entire time I was on it. I'd throw up a lot and not want to eat. And the 10 years younger me could've handled it just fine. People's bodies change as they get older.

i already have thrown a fit on dereks channel for recommending 250mg as a cycle cuz he really doesnt want people to make progress he just wants guys to fuck up their hpta for 5lbs on the scale maybe. but did you see what his reply was? just a bunch of negative shit i hate when guys only crtisize every post they respond to ive been taking gear for a decade man youre going to tell me im on too much shit bro look at my photo dude im not some beginner here thats why i got mad. also why the hell is he telling me what he cna handle ? im sorry you cant handle my cycle bro thats not my problem nor was it my quesiton so idk why the dude is even telling me that.. and besides hes gotta be a baby if he cant handle my mild cycle haha shit i know pros who have admitted to using over 3 grams of just test plus all the other shit soo this dude dont know wtf hes talking about telling me im on too much shit wtf do you prep women or someting cuz men push gear but i guess he just cant handle that much gear and he wants to share that with everyone

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The last time I ran dbol, I was sick to my stomach the entire time I was on it. I'd throw up a lot and not want to eat. And the 10 years younger me could've handled it just fine. People's bodies change as they get older.

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anyway im done ranting , but how old are you now?

ur rants make you look incredibly stupid. this is not an attack at all, just simple observation. In every thread you get shut down in you're only response is " few guys" yet complain nobody will help.

Tip- be humble, you obviously don't know everything or you would not be asking questions. Start fresh man

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Originally Posted by Mooseman33

ur rants make you look incredibly stupid. this is not an attack at all, just simple observation. In every thread you get shut down in you're only response is " few guys" yet complain nobody will help.

Tip- be humble, you obviously don't know everything or you would not be asking questions. Start fresh man

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did you even read my original quesiton? no body has even attempted to answer except almostgone, instead eveyone is just focused how im an asshole for calling out cuz for his answer which wasent even an answer is was "dude youre on way to much gear i couldnt even handle all that gear" ok? thanks for that but i didnt ask that, so ill ask you i guess since you dont want to even attempt to answer the question and whole point for this thread. so ill ask you wtf do you even mean with this post?


Edit: and get shut down? by who ? cuz? with his non sense he doesnt know what hes talking about there is literally countless articles about eq lowering e2 im sorry but there is so what does that mean? hes right? im wrong? no i think that means its a debate that can be debated or simply and opinion ive done nothing wrong. if anything cuz is toxic with him telling everyone theyre wrong becasue HE doesnt respond that way or HE cant handle that so that makes my doses too high? How can you say im stupid for simply trying to explain why i ranted in the first place. Im active on other boards im very well respected on other boards becasue I have a TON of knowlege and cycle, diet, training expierence I help many many people will all kinds of things because I have been researching gear and everything bodybuilding and doing it for over ten years. And my original question was my a matter of hey guys who have done drol and dbol together what did you think and do you prefer both togeter or one or the other thats all. It was just to start a topic of discussion. I am done ranting about this, i dont understand why im being attacked for just telling cuz, hey man not everyone is the same so dont tell someone theyre wrong becasue thats not something cuz would do. Its ok, im not angry but I dont think i deserve to be attacked. And I really cant believe no one is taking my side here. thats the last ill speak on it, if youd like to give your opinion on anadrol and dbol stacked that would be nice thank you

I was very clear I was not attacking you, hell you even quoted me. relax little fella.

I said ur rants make u look stupid and u 100% backed that up again. nobody cares how respected u are on other boards or what YouTube channel u follow. Think about it for a second, actually re-read what u just posted. U actually went into detail how u are so respected and help so many people.... hilarious

I think u are under the belief u are getting attacked for disagreeing with Cuz, I simply called u out for ur wording before in other thread which I was 100% correct on and then how ur rants make u look stupid.
take it easy, stop with the bullshit and stick around and LEARN something.

start fresh

I'm still trying to find where cuz was anything but nice and honest with his advice to the op. Shrugs.

Not gonna get anywhere here asking for advice then getting an attitude when you don't get approval for your plan.

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I'm still trying to find where cuz was anything but nice and honest with his advice to the op. Shrugs.

Not gonna get anywhere here asking for advice then getting an attitude when you don't get approval for your plan.

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read cuz first response and tell me how thats even relavant to the question. and mooseman33 i think calling someone stupid would be considered an attack technically actually. little fella? post pics of yourself there bud. How much you wanna bet your a fat guy who takes gear and moves a lot of weight and eats cheeseburgers and fris 6 times a day and calls himself a bodybuiler and is almost 300lbs of fat.

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Originally Posted by tbjake34

read cuz first response and tell me how thats even relavant to the question. and mooseman33 i think calling someone stupid would be considered an attack technically actually. little fella? post pics of yourself there bud. How much you wanna bet your a fat guy who takes gear and moves a lot of weight and eats cheeseburgers and fris 6 times a day and calls himself a bodybuiler and is almost 300lbs of fat.

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You really need to step back and take a deep breath before you post. We encourage our members to post, but if the tantrums continue, you will, in fact, be "shut down".