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Thread: First cycle

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    First cycle

    Good day! I'm currently planning my first ever cycle and i have a few questions.
    It will be an 8-week pyramid Testosterone Enanthate cycle, the doses will be as follows: 125mg | 250mg | 250mg | 500mg | 500mg | 250mg | 250mg | 125mg | (each dose is per week)
    My questions are:
    1. should i split each weekly dose between 2 injections or just send it in all at once?
    2. How should i store Testosterone Enanthate ? Should it be refrigerated or can i just keep it in a drawer in my desk?
    3. What is Testosterone Enanthate shelf life? Does it ever expire if stored properly?

    I will also be doing PCT, which is going to start 2 weeks after my last injection, PCT will be as follows:

    first 2 weeks: HCG - 1000iu every 2 days for the duration of 10 days (5 doses in total, 5000iu in total), Aromasin - 25mg every day for 2 weeks, Nolvadex - 20mg every day for 2 weeks

    3rd and 4th week: Nolvadex 20mg every day

    My questions are:
    1. Are the doses enough?
    2. Do you advise taking an AI during the cycle?

    Any replies greatly appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveBench View Post
    Good day! I'm currently planning my first ever cycle and i have a few questions.
    It will be an 8-week pyramid Testosterone Enanthate cycle, the doses will be as follows: 125mg | 250mg | 250mg | 500mg | 500mg | 250mg | 250mg | 125mg | (each dose is per week)
    My questions are:
    1. should i split each weekly dose between 2 injections or just send it in all at once?
    2. How should i store Testosterone Enanthate ? Should it be refrigerated or can i just keep it in a drawer in my desk?
    3. What is Testosterone Enanthate shelf life? Does it ever expire if stored properly?

    I will also be doing PCT, which is going to start 2 weeks after my last injection, PCT will be as follows:

    first 2 weeks: HCG - 1000iu every 2 days for the duration of 10 days (5 doses in total, 5000iu in total), Aromasin - 25mg every day for 2 weeks, Nolvadex - 20mg every day for 2 weeks

    3rd and 4th week: Nolvadex 20mg every day

    My questions are:
    1. Are the doses enough?
    2. Do you advise taking an AI during the cycle?

    Any replies greatly appreciated
    First and foremost 8 weeks of test E isn't a very good cycle. It'll 4-6 weeks before you even notice any gains. Second this titrating up shit is stupid. If you injected 500mg per week it's going to take several weeks until your average test level peaks anyways. Test E has a half life of 4-5 days. That means if you inject on Monday, by Thursday you still have half of it in you. So if you inject the same dose again you now have 1.5 doses in you. and if you wait 4 more days to dose again, you have 1.75 doses in you and 4 more days to dose you'll have 1.875 and 4 more days 1.9375 and 4 more 1.96875. See how it works? The amount in you will go up to an asymptote. It'll never reach 2 doses in you, but it'll get pretty close. You have no need to "pyramid up."

    Here's an image of the exact formula T is the frequency of dosing and tau is the halflife:



    And most people split their test E injections up twice a week. However, if you split your dose up to 3x a week, you'll have smaller peaks and valleys in your test levels throughout the week (but again most people don't do that). And do not refrigerate your test. You don't want to always be fvuking with crashed gear.

    And test E does have a shelf life (but it's several years). In fact, if you have vials that are a few years old and decide to use them, they'll still likely be good to go (supposing they were stored in good conditions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveBench View Post
    Good day! I'm currently planning my first ever cycle and i have a few questions.
    It will be an 8-week pyramid Testosterone Enanthate cycle, the doses will be as follows: 125mg | 250mg | 250mg | 500mg | 500mg | 250mg | 250mg | 125mg | (each dose is per week)
    My questions are:
    1. should i split each weekly dose between 2 injections or just send it in all at once?
    2. How should i store Testosterone Enanthate ? Should it be refrigerated or can i just keep it in a drawer in my desk?
    3. What is Testosterone Enanthate shelf life? Does it ever expire if stored properly?

    I will also be doing PCT, which is going to start 2 weeks after my last injection, PCT will be as follows:

    first 2 weeks: HCG - 1000iu every 2 days for the duration of 10 days (5 doses in total, 5000iu in total), Aromasin - 25mg every day for 2 weeks, Nolvadex - 20mg every day for 2 weeks

    3rd and 4th week: Nolvadex 20mg every day

    My questions are:
    1. Are the doses enough?
    2. Do you advise taking an AI during the cycle?

    Any replies greatly appreciated
    Ur 22.
    Best advice is to wait another 3 years.

    And based on your Qs, it seems like you are not ready yet.

    But who wants parrentsadvices these days...

    Split in two shots. Store in roomtemp.
    Personally i dont think AI is needed. You should use 400 mg DIM daily instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Ur 22.
    Best advice is to wait another 3 years.


    And based on your Qs, it seems like you are not ready yet.

    But who wants parrentsadvices these days...

    Split in two shots. Store in roomtemp.
    Personally i dont think AI is needed. You should use 400 mg DIM daily instead.

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    ^^^OP In bold is probably the best advice you're going to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Ur 22.
    Best advice is to wait another 3 years.

    And based on your Qs, it seems like you are not ready yet.

    But who wants parrentsadvices these days...

    Split in two shots. Store in roomtemp.
    Personally i dont think AI is needed. You should use 400 mg DIM daily instead.

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    Agree about waiting and honestly it will be a much better trip if you wait until you reach your genetic potential and then pull the trigger and your results will speak for themselves and regardless of what anyone tells you, once you start this stuff you gotta keep taking it if you want to keep any gains it’s not like you do a cycle and stop and your muscles stay like they were on cycle the only thing you can do is cruise and blast and it doesn’t make sense to do that when you’re natural levels are probably over 900, and you better get some viagra because pct doesn’t always work
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    This is a really stupid cycle. You wont see any gains until 4 weeks in, so you are essentially going into a very ineffective 4 week cycle.

    How long have you been training?

    How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlaloc View Post
    This is a really stupid cycle. You wont see any gains until 4 weeks in, so you are essentially going into a very ineffective 4 week cycle.

    How long have you been training?

    How old are you?
    I wouldnít say itís stupid, however there are much better ways. I just had to comment on the 4 week cycle. That is not how the 1/2 life really works.
    When I phase cycle, my cycles for each phase are about 4 weeks. They work. Now all of the ramping up and ramping down is not necessary IMO and HCG is not post cycle, it is actually during cycle to keep the boys working. Using it when you are trying to return to normal body function is counter productive IMO.


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    Everything about this cycle wrong….

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    Its been two months since your first post. If youíre not indeed a troll, welcome aboard. My first question is how old are you and whether you have a good natural physique? And yes as other mentions, cycle with pct needs a complete overhaul hopefully you didnít start yet? Or did you?
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    lots of good advice in this thread, but il add my 2 cents:

    no need to ramp up and ramp down the dose of test, injecting twice a week, 200 mgs each pin for 10 weeks would be better. gear should be stored at room temp, do not refrigerate it. it can cause the hormone to separate from the oil, and you dont want condensation to form inside the vial. oil base gear does have a pretty long shelf life, but i try to use vials within 18 months. also, your PCT needs to be adjusted. first, you need that long ester base test to be completely out of your system before you start, so PCT should begin at least 5 weeks after your last injection. i personally would run much higher HCG and tamoxifen for a longer period of time. clomid would also be beneficial to add in there. its also been said that it is much easier to keep your test levels up with HCG while on cycle rather than shutting yourself down with gear then using HCG to get back to normal. if you can afford to add HCG for the full cycle duration and continue several weeks after it ends, that would be best. and finally, yes, run an AI during your cycle.

    furthermore, as stated above, you cant reasonably expect to take one or a few cycles and keep all your gains, youl need to at least be on TRT for the rest of your life to keep the majority of your gains. that being said, it would be smarter to wait until you can at least afford a prescription for TRT before you start blasting.
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    I'm sorry to ride the coat tails of your thread.
    I haven't been to the gym in a while and I was have just started cardio.

    How would I go about finding a new hookup? I doubt guys want you walking up to them and asking them, I'm also not a real outgoing/walk up and talk at the gym person.

    My last source several years ago was through a friend and I moved states and don't really know anyone and he was shipping then burned me out of about 1800$ worth of stuff so I haven't messed with it since

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated

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    buddy just do what we all do here in the states. look for the biggest guy in the gym and ask him. Everyone knows the big guys sell all the steroids in the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G_mculvny View Post
    I'm sorry to ride the coat tails of your thread.
    I haven't been to the gym in a while and I was have just started cardio.

    How would I go about finding a new hookup? I doubt guys want you walking up to them and asking them, I'm also not a real outgoing/walk up and talk at the gym person.

    My last source several years ago was through a friend and I moved states and don't really know anyone and he was shipping then burned me out of about 1800$ worth of stuff so I haven't messed with it since

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated
    This isn't a source board. In fact, if anybody DOES give you a source, it's probably a scammer looking to scam you.

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    I was your age when i started experimenting with androstene and other pro hormones. By the time i was 26 or 28 i was on real gear. By the time I was 42 I was on TRT. The idea of running gear might be thrilling right now but when you have to inject every week for the rest of your life it gets old real quick. Point being I had plenty of room to grow naturally, learn about diet, learn how to train, etc but i took shortcuts. Theres usually a price you pay with shortcuts. Stick around read about training, dieting etc. You might learn something. But your original post tells me you're not ready for gear
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