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    Tren E + Test E, which AI?

    My supplier sent me the wrong stuff! What AI do I use?

    I was originally planning a test blend/mast stack for the start of this year, 200mg Test and 300mg Mast per week. But, my supplier sent me a Test E/Tren E blend instead of the Test blend. I've done some reading about Tren, never used if before, and thought I would keep the volume close to my original plan. My new plan is 250 Test E/150 Tren/400 Mast per week, divided into 2 pins per week. What AI do I use.

    I've read Tren causes elevated prolactin. Should I use Prami to combat the high prolactin or just stick to Arimidex or Letro?

    Thanks for helpin' out.
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    With that much mast, you may not need an a.i. Doubtful you'll have any tren related problems at that dosage.

    If you really wanted to cover your bases, grab a bottle of dostinex/cabergoline to have on hand. I don't foresee you needing it.
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    Mast should take care of it but have caber and anastrozole on hand in case you get sides. Might not notice any with 150 tren E, probably would with Ace tho. Ace is better imho kicks hard and if you cant handle it its gone quickly. Im doing 100 mg a week of tren ace right now and sides are manageable albeit this is about my 8th run with tren. That should be a pretty good cycle if your diet and training are good.

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    I was never a fan of blends because you don't know wat you are really getting.

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    I highly doubt you're going to need an AI on 250mg of test per week (regardless of the ester). Not to mention you're planning on running it with mast.

    And for the record, prolactin levels aren't increased by tren (nor nandrolone). What does raise prolactin levels is estradiol and again you're really not planning on taking enough test to be worried about that.

    What tren will do though is bind to the progesterone receptor (which is probably the cause why some might get some of the progestin-isk effects).

    But yeah I agree with Songdog that you should avoid blends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Mast should take care of it but have caber and anastrozole on hand in case you get sides. Might not notice any with 150 tren E, probably would with Ace tho. Ace is better imho kicks hard and if you cant handle it its gone quickly. Im doing 100 mg a week of tren ace right now and sides are manageable albeit this is about my 8th run with tren. That should be a pretty good cycle if your diet and training are good.
    Yeah. I agree for a rookie, ace is better.

    I really don't think his proposed 150mg dosage needs ancilliaries. The hardest things he'd have to deal with is how it fvuks with how deep you can breathe and not being able to get a good night's sleep on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Yeah. I agree for a rookie, ace is better.

    I really don't think his proposed 150mg dosage needs ancilliaries. The hardest things he'd have to deal with is how it fvuks with how deep you can breathe and not being able to get a good night's sleep on it.
    X2 on the breathing. Im experiencing that on 100 mg a week. And it’s pretty bad enough to worry a person. I really dont know the effects tren has on lungs other then shortness of breath , shallow breathing, and just overall oxygen shortness. From a science aspect Id like to know what its doing, whether it is taking more oxygen to the muscle cell or what. After 12 minutes of cardio my calves are so pumped i have to stop. And that, is 100mg a week. And some of these noobs out here wondering if 400mg a week is a good first cycle. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamusm View Post
    My supplier sent me the wrong stuff! What AI do I use?

    I was originally planning a test blend/mast stack for the start of this year, 200mg Test and 300mg Mast per week. But, my supplier sent me a Test E/Tren E blend instead of the Test blend. I've done some reading about Tren, never used if before, and thought I would keep the volume close to my original plan. My new plan is 250 Test E/150 Tren/400 Mast per week, divided into 2 pins per week. What AI do I use.

    I've read Tren causes elevated prolactin. Should I use Prami to combat the high prolactin or just stick to Arimidex or Letro?

    Thanks for helpin' out.
    arimidex and letrozole will prevent estrogen related gyno, but they will not have any impact on progesterone/prolactin. for that you would need either pramipexole or cabergoline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    X2 on the breathing. Im experiencing that on 100 mg a week. And it’s pretty bad enough to worry a person. I really dont know the effects tren has on lungs other then shortness of breath , shallow breathing, and just overall oxygen shortness. From a science aspect Id like to know what its doing, whether it is taking more oxygen to the muscle cell or what. After 12 minutes of cardio my calves are so pumped i have to stop. And that, is 100mg a week. And some of these noobs out here wondering if 400mg a week is a good first cycle. LOL
    I don't know what the effects are on the lungs, but for me, within like 2 minutes after the first shot, it just feels like somebody is sitting on my chest and I just can't get a good breath of air without laboring. Mind you, I didn't ever get "tren cough" any more often or to a greater severity than I would get from injecting anything else. In fact, my worst coughing fits were with nothing but test in the quads. So I really don't know what is happening as far as processes in the body that make it harder to breath. I'm fairly certain though it's the inability to get a deep breath that is what fucks with everybody's cardio while on it.

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    Thank you for knowledge. I should have added I am susceptible to gyno. I was on doctor Rx TRT, 100mg/week, and I noticed a lump on one side of my chest start to grow. That's the reason for my concern. The TRT lasted for a few years till my doctor retired and my new doctor wont continue the prescription. I'm going to finish the bottle and switch to my original plan of Test E and Mast. I'll use Mast to control the estrogen side effects.

    Tren Cough? I didn't know that was a thing. I've started my cycle I did not get a cough at all and so far my breathing is fine. My sleep has been shit, maybe tren is the culprit! So far so good though. Strength is going up and I'm able to cut a little as well but, that's mostly diet.

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