Lean growth cycle (experienced members only please)

[Kaytime]

Hey guys it’s been a while since I been on the forum as I was living in Thailand for quite some time for work purposes

Long story short I was out of the gym for around 5 months due to a growth I had just under my arm and now that is all good I been training back to normal ever since but just on a cruise dose of test as I’m on trt.

I wanted to try something different in terms of cycle and I wonder if I can get an input from people who have run similar or same compounds as I wanted to experiment to see results and gain back some hard quality size I had before.

I was thinking the following cycle
Test e 750mg 1 - 24wks
Dhb 500mg 1 - 12wks
Npp 500mg 1 - 10wks
Anadrol 25mg 1 - 5wks

Possibly insulin at 10iu 1 - 5wks (no hgh)

Then change over too
Test e 750mg 12 - 24wks
Primo 600mg 12 - 24wks
Tren a 400mg 12 - 20wks
Winstrol 50mg 18 - 24wks

I have years of experience since 19 and I am 36
My stats atm are
Age 36
Height 6ft
Weight 126kg
Bf 11%

I have never tried Dhb and I was wondering if the dose I have is good or would I need to go higher?

What would I expect with dhb and is npp ok to take with dhb?

Roughly what would I expect in terms of gains with dhb? I use to run tren most cycles around 800mg of tren e but it really fkd me mentally so I won’t run it as high or much anymore. It’s a it true dhb is same as tren in certain ways?

[almostgone]

Most people report a good bit of PIP from dhb.

Long cycle..

[Kaytime]

Most people report a good bit of PIP from dhb.

Long cycle..

It shouldn’t be too much of an issue as I’ve taken some stuff that was made with some intense pip.

Usually my cycles last anywhere between 10 to 12 weeks but I feel the body adapts a lot. I’ve played around a lot with high doses and more compounds in the past which did yield its gains but as I get older I don’t want to be in that same mindset of doing the same thing again of grams and grams.

This time I wanted to run a much longer cycle with lower doses and just go from there and change compounds around. Sort of like a small experiment.

The only side I usually ever get was water retention in the face but I might just control that with aromasin but cardio atm has been every other day on an empty stomach. Use to be everyday but I felt recovery was suffering as the times I get up and go sleep didn’t yield me much sleep also due to work.

[< <Samson> >]

I have been hearing really good shit about DHB. But, unfortunately I can not speak from experience.

It seems to be the new go to.

aDrol is awesome shit for putting on LBM. I was never able to push 50mg daily past a week or so. But, 25 was good shit for about a month - then constant gerd would set in.

Tren is always awesome shit, if your body can hang.

Never seen much if anything from one Primo run I did. But, I only ran it in one cycle with test & var at 400-500mg weekly for 3 months.

[Kaytime]

I have been hearing really good shit about DHB. But, unfortunately I can not speak from experience.

It seems to be the new go to.

aDrol is awesome shit for putting on LBM. I was never able to push 50mg daily past a week or so. But, 25 was good shit for about a month - then constant gerd would set in.

Tren is always awesome shit, if your body can hang.

Never seen much if anything from one Primo run I did. But, I only ran it in one cycle with test & var at 400-500mg weekly for 3 months.

Is dhb injected eod or twice a week? This is one part I never knew but I’m actually geed up to see the gains from it.

Adrol I use to run 200mg daily but after a few weeks i just didn’t get hungry anymore as it felt like I had to force feed myself. I just thought Maby 25mg daily for 6 weeks or a little more depending on how bloods turn out 6 weeks in.

I use to run tren e at 800mg no issue but sweats and insomnia at times but I think the worst it’s done was mentally almost fk me up which is why o don’t go that hard with it anymore.

I might use aromasin to keep water low tho just depends how things go.

[< <Samson> >]

I’m not sure how often to spike it up

From what I’m reading it’s similar to a long ester - I can check with a guy I know that’s ran in multiple times, or my bathtub brewer

From what I’m seeing, I’d prob do 2x weekly - I’m tired of eod shit

Those are insane doses of aBombs, but it’s all about what about what our bodies can tolerate




Edit > I just got ahold of the guy I know that has ran it a few times - He said 3x weekly

[Family_guy]

DHB is pretty fucking awesome. Iirc I ran something like 2-300 mgs and it just gave such a hard look. A little aggression but in a positive way. No real Androgenic sides like prostate issues(mast and Tren both give me issues at times…) no oily skin or acne.

I don’t think you’d need to run 500mgs. Especially since it’s usually dosed at 100mgs/ml. That’s a shit load of pins plus it was quite noticeable at apprx 200mgs when I ran it.

[Family_guy]

another name for DHB is 1-Test cypionate . So it’s a cypionate ester. So treat it exactly the same as you would with any other cyp ester. Preferably do as frequent injections possible regardless but you could get away with 2x a week.

[Cylon357]

DHB is pretty fucking awesome. Iirc I ran something like 2-300 mgs and it just gave such a hard look. A little aggression but in a positive way. No real Androgenic sides like prostate issues(mast and Tren both give me issues at times…) no oily skin or acne.

I don’t think you’d need to run 500mgs. Especially since it’s usually dosed at 100mgs/ml. That’s a shit load of pins plus it was quite noticeable at apprx 200mgs when I ran it.

A Family_guy sighting!

[Family_guy]

Lmao I do creep from time to time. But I would really like to get active on here again. Just been a crazy past few years. But I have been back at the gym going hard with the training and the diet and gear again. So it’s always nice to have that extra motivation to be around this community again.

Btw Cy you are always like the first one to greet me and always make me feel welcomed and I do appreciate it brother

[Cylon357]

Lmao I do creep from time to time. But I would really like to get active on here again. Just been a crazy past few years. But I have been back at the gym going hard with the training and the diet and gear again. So it’s always nice to have that extra motivation to be around this community again.

Btw Cy you are always like the first one to greet me and always make me feel welcomed and I do appreciate it brother

Always good to see a productive member return! Don't stay gone so long, man! Good to see you!

[almostgone]

Lmao I do creep from time to time. But I would really like to get active on here again. Just been a crazy past few years. But I have been back at the gym going hard with the training and the diet and gear again. So it’s always nice to have that extra motivation to be around this community again.

Btw Cy you are always like the first one to greet me and always make me feel welcomed and I do appreciate it brother

We'd love to see drop in more often, Family G!

[Family_guy]

Thanks AG! Good to see you too buddy

[kelkel]

Btw Cy you are always like the first one to greet me and always make me feel welcomed and I do appreciate it brother

Cy works as a greeter at Walmart too......

[Cylon357]

Cy works as a greeter at Walmart too......

There is riff, and there is raff, but I just can't tolerate riffraff!

[tlaloc]

Thats a ton of gear to be taking for a year straight.

If you have never done an extremely long cycle, I would suggest just trying 750mg of Test for 6 months and a few orals for preworkout purposes. I think you would do very well, provided your sleep and food are on point.

My best cycle was 500mg Test for a year, just slow steady strength and mass gains. I would make sure not to destroy the muscle, just stimulate it.

I found out pretty quickly in my gear experiments that my own body did not respond very well to short cycles with high dosages/multiple compounds, done long cycles with 500 Test ever since.