My third cycle!

[Joel_Juice]

ok here is little backround:

I'm 210 6'0 with about 15-18% bf, i have gained fat because of long time bulking. First i thinked that i cut first, but damn i need more mass before lol. So my goals is to get some nice gains, like 20-25lbs, with minium fat gains. Thats why i'm planning to take t3 25mcg through cycle. T3 should also increase protein synthesis, so at that dose it should be benefical for bulking. Anavar at the end of cycle is to keep my gains, bring some hardness and strenght gains

week--propi-----dbol -----t3------anavar----clomid
1-----700mg----35mg---25---------------------------
2-----700mg----35mg---25---------------------------
3-----700mg----35mg---25----------------------------
4-----700mg----35mg---25----------------------------
5-----700mg----35mg---25---------------------------
6-----700mg--------------25------40mg--------------
7-----700mg--------------25------40mg--------------
8-------------------------------------30mg------100ed
9-------------------------------------20mg-------50ed
10-----------------------------------20mg-------50eod

Lasti time i used cypionate , it kicked in week 6 and cycle was 8 weeks. So there was not too many quality weeks. I believe that i can get more results with prop in 6 weeks, instead using long ester 8 weeks. Also i can use clomids and other shits sooner, so i dont have to wait so long time for cutting cycle, which i will start on april. Propi is virormone, dbols are thai's and anavar is spanish generig 10mg.


Cutting cycle is something like this :
test 500mg 10 weeks
winstrol weeks 1-6 50 ed or eod
tren (maybe) weeks 1-6 75 ed
anavar weeks 7-15, 40mg's first 20mg bridging
clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off through cycle
eca between clen
t3 pyramid 25-125-25mcg at the midle of cycle

[dino2]

Looks fine to me, and you could be right about the long and short esters

In my opinion you should use the longer esters for longer time.

I'm now in a deca winnie cycle, and my gains were only starting at week 4.
Now I'am in week 7, I can say I'm gaining.

About the T3, I use it myself for 2weeks now, 25mcg ED.
Can't say I feel anything, although my hartbeat is increase about 5-10 BPM.
Was thinking of going to 50 ED.

[pureanger]

Looks good I would up your dbal to 40-50mg per day and only run it four weeks long

[Biggy20]

Bro, i don't recommand you to put test in your cutting cycle, test bring estrogen and this shit lower your ability to burn fat. The best thing you can stack with your winny for this purpose is parabolan 2xweeks, i did it with T4 and i was so ripped!!!!!!Buy the way, if you don't want to loose muscles mass while on T3, never exeed 100mcg.(This shit is damn strong)

peace

[Joel_Juice]

Biggy20 i have thinked not to use test there, but i guess at least 250mg week would be good, that my sex drive would be good

I wonder how long it is ok to run tren ? Has anybody take it 10 weeks?

maybe this would be ultimate cutting cycle :

week---test-------tren------winny------ox-------clomid
1-------250-------75ed-----50ed-------------------------
2-------250-------75ed-----50ed-------------------------
3-------250-------75ed-----50ed-------------------------
4-------250-------75ed-----50ed-------------------------
5-------250-------75ed-----50ed-------------------------
6-------250-------75ed-----50ed-------------------------
7-------250-------75ed------------------50ed------------
8-------250-------75ed------------------50ed------------
9-------250------------------------------50ed-----------
10----------------------------------------40ed-----------
11----------------------------------------30ed-----------
12----------------------------------------20ed---100ed
13----------------------------------------20ed---50ed
14----------------------------------------20ed---50eod

clen 2 week on 2 week off through out cycle, eca between clen and t3 pyramid on week 4-8 for example. Also i could replace enanthate 250mg week, by virormone prop 100eod. What u think?

If everything gies right on my bulking cycle, i will be about 240 and 18% after it, then i start this cutting cycle on january, my goal is gain some lean mass, strengh and drop the bodyfat tp 10-12% Offcourse i will eat clean foods about 2000-2500 cals and do cardio 3-4 times week. Are my goals realistic?

[Joel_Juice]

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[Joel_Juice]

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[PaPaPumP]

Holy shit! Somebody help this guy. . .I think the cycle looks fine. Try to get some liquidex or arimidex , and run it at .25-.5mg ed to keep water down and reduce other estrogenic sides. Good luck bro. This just MO. Take it for what it's worthg.

[Joel_Juice]

Originally posted by PaPaPumP
Holy shit! Somebody help this guy. . .I think the cycle looks fine. Try to get some liquidex or arimidex , and run it at .25-.5mg ed to keep water down and reduce other estrogenic sides. Good luck bro. This just MO. Take it for what it's worthg.

I sold my armidex to ne friend, because i found that they are not worth of their price! I used them on last cycle and this time i have nolvadex , if gyno problems appear.

EDIT: Maybe i take some too proviron to keep water away.