first cycle (20 ???'s)

**manwithaplan** · 08-14-2003, 12:24 PM

I'm 153, 5'8" and 29 yrs old & have been lifting regularly over last few years.

Hows this for a first cycle?

deca 300mg/wk
dianabol 20mg/day
oxandralone 25/day
sust 250 500mg/wk

proviron ??/mg/?? How much & when?
nolvadex ??/mg/?? How much & when?

???Is this too much...OK, or should i use deca/winny depo/ and sust???

Last ???...clomid? or what... how much (mg/day or mg/wk) and for how long to restore my bodies own test balance???

Novice needing help....please.
Experienced opinions much appriciated!!

**BDTR** · 08-14-2003, 12:34 PM

Save the deca , save the oxan, switch the sust with a single ester test like ena or cyp. run the test for 10 weeks and the dbol 1-4, maybe bump the dosage up a little but its not even really needed at all. Start clomid 3 weeks after your last injection.
Day 1 - 300mg
10 days - 100mg
10 days 50mg

Run nolva throughout the cycle at 20mg, if you're paranoid about gyno as well as through post cycle.

**bad brains** · 08-14-2003, 01:56 PM

I'd drop the ox, and run the rest at deca 400mlgs/wk.....sus250 500mlgs/wk....d-bol 30mg ed/4 weeks......I like to run clomid throughout my entire cycle, nolva only when needed......What I have listed was the exact cycle(minus primo) that I ever did....I got good results and was happy with the end product, good luck with whatever cycle you choose.....

**custom fit** · 08-14-2003, 02:41 PM

I was thinking the same thing as bdtr. save deca and ox, but I thing sust would suit you fine. happy growing.

Ohh yeah, I forgot there's no light in the tunnel now that your over to the dark side