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    AZScorpion is offline New Member
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    Anti-e what/how much on hand for this 1st cycle?

    Getting ready to start my first cycle:

    400mg Deca Weeks 1-10
    500mg Test Cyp Weeks 1-10
    50mg Winny ED Weeks 4-10
    Clomid starting 3 weeks after last Deca 100mg/day for 1st 2 weeks
    then reduced to 50mg/day for another week.

    I have no Idea how my body will respond to the Test/Deca so I want to have a good anti-e on hand just in case. I'm 35 and working from a solid base: 6'3 225 with ~13%bf.

    Suggestions have ranged from Anastrazole to Nolvadex . I know Nolva is relatively expensive and I'm not even sure if I can get it yet.

    Any input on what you guys have used successfully and how much I should have on hand if gyno, acne or bloating start to appear?

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    Clomis will need to be ran for 4 weeks. Deca will shut you down hard and you will need the extra tims... You can also look into HCG to help.

    For the Deca have on hand Bromo..... The rest of the cycle I would run Nolva at 20mg ED till the end of PCT. Nolva is not expensive and is pretty easy to get.

    For acne shower 3x a day, use about 6 to 10g of B-5, and a good acne soap.

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    I would change the Winny to weeks 7 - 12 then 1 day after start Clomid

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    IMHO for your first cycle...run the cyp at 500mg EW and save the rest of the gear for later. No need for stacking on your first cycle.

    Run N-dex 20mg per day until the end of PCT like Mudman suggested.

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    i agree pimpdaddy .if he is avirgin to the supasauce there is no need to stack because those receptor sites willrecognize and eat that shit up.honestly receptor sites down regulate after so long, its best to take care of them and use minimal first cycle. you may have enough 4 1st 2 cycles!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard gear
    .honestly receptor sites down regulate after so long, :

    Actually no, the AR receptor upregulates with saturation.


    AZS- Toss the winny. If you go with the Deca , then reduce it to 300


    .5mg L-dex ED + 10mg of Nolva

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    AZScorpion is offline New Member
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    Thanks for the feedback!

    RG - Just curious why toss the winny?

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    For your first cycle I would keep it simple and do just 500mg test/ a week split into 2 shots a week and take 20mg of nolvadex through out cycle and pct. Because it being your first cycle you won't know whats giving you the sides with that many and the deca you will need to get bromo or dosinex or something for the prolactin/progesterone issues. Then 2 weeks after last shot start clomid at (1st day 300mg)-(2nd-11th 100mg)- (10-15 days 50mg) The rest for you first cycle really isn't needed Id save it for your 2nd cycle. GL

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