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    first cycle

    I'm planning on doing my first cycle but i am just wondering what do u think is the best cycle to keep gains after u go off.

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    1-10 test-e 500mg a week
    clomid post cycle.

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    be sure to have anti-e on hand

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    on the effectiveness chart test e has a 1 in the keep gains section and high water retention

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    Don't listen to that chart, a lot of the info on it is way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    1-10 test-e 500mg a week
    clomid post cycle.
    Agreed. Would be even better with 1-4 test prop 75mg ED added on.

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    Yup, a good kickstart. I was just sticking to the basics for em though since the prop isn't 100% needed.

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    ...but who wants to wait!

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    what is ed and test p has good gains and i will still keep these after i stop? also i already have some winny depot

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    by the time you finish the prop the enanthate will be kicking in nicely

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    what is the final cycle and the gains will stay?
    and what about the winny

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    1-4 test prop 75mg ed
    1-10 test-e 500mg a week

    clomid started two weeks after your last injection of test-e

    Day 1 300mg
    100mg ten days
    50mg ten days

    have nolvadex on hand for gyno.

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    Most of your gains will stay with a proper PCT.

    Save the winny for later.

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    Also winny isn't needed your first time out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    1-4 test prop 75mg ed
    1-10 test-e 500mg a week

    clomid started two weeks after your last injection of test-e

    Day 1 300mg
    100mg ten days
    50mg ten days

    have nolvadex on hand for gyno.
    Sup BDTR, When your talking about the second part is that for Clomid therapy? I mean the Day 1 300mg etc. etc.?

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    yup, the 300mg etc. is the clomid dosing.

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