I'm planning on doing my first cycle but i am just wondering what do u think is the best cycle to keep gains after u go off.
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I'm planning on doing my first cycle but i am just wondering what do u think is the best cycle to keep gains after u go off.
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1-10 test-e 500mg a week
clomid post cycle.
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be sure to have anti-e on hand
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on the effectiveness chart test e has a 1 in the keep gains section and high water retention
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Don't listen to that chart, a lot of the info on it is way off.
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Agreed. Would be even better with 1-4 test prop 75mg ED added on.Originally Posted by bdtr
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Yup, a good kickstart. I was just sticking to the basics for em though since the prop isn't 100% needed.
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...but who wants to wait!
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what is ed and test p has good gains and i will still keep these after i stop? also i already have some winny depot
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every day
by the time you finish the prop the enanthate will be kicking in nicely
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what is the final cycle and the gains will stay?
and what about the winny
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1-4 test prop 75mg ed
1-10 test-e 500mg a week
clomid started two weeks after your last injection of test-e
Day 1 300mg
100mg ten days
50mg ten days
have nolvadex on hand for gyno.
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Most of your gains will stay with a proper PCT.
Save the winny for later.
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Also winny isn't needed your first time out.
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Sup BDTR, When your talking about the second part is that for Clomid therapy? I mean the Day 1 300mg etc. etc.?
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yup, the 300mg etc. is the clomid dosing.
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