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    EQ/Winny Only (1st Cycle)

    i'm looking to do my first cycle and this looks like the one for me. from all my searches and reading on here i know adding test is like the holy grail but i'm really not looking to pack on much size at all. right now i'm 5'8 185 with bf in the 17-18% range (mainly due to falling off the wagon after hurting my shoulder). i was at around 13% right be4 i hurt my shoulder after eating clean and a round of clen .

    anyhow my question is if i decide to leave the test out would i still do 400mg of eq/wk 1-12
    50mg of win eod 8-12
    clomid at the end of course
    or would it be better to do more winny since the test is being left out.

    thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedrocked
    i'm looking to do my first cycle and this looks like the one for me. from all my searches and reading on here i know adding test is like the holy grail but i'm really not looking to pack on much size at all. right now i'm 5'8 185 with bf in the 17-18% range (mainly due to falling off the wagon after hurting my shoulder). i was at around 13% right be4 i hurt my shoulder after eating clean and a round of clen .

    anyhow my question is if i decide to leave the test out would i still do 400mg of eq/wk 1-12
    50mg of win eod 8-12
    clomid at the end of course
    or would it be better to do more winny since the test is being left out.

    thanks in advance.
    EQ/Win was my first cycle with impressive gains, 11# lean mass. EQ's half life is 18-21 days so it's best to run Win 21 days after EQ. Also Win works much better @ 50mg ed (yes you can drink it).

    I would change your cycle to:

    400mg of EQ/wk 1-12 (2 x 200mg/wk.
    50mg of Win/ed wk 10-15.
    Start clomid 1 day after last Win.

    Regards,
    LH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longhorn
    EQ/Win was my first cycle with impressive gains, 11# lean mass. EQ's half life is 18-21 days so it's best to run Win 21 days after EQ. Also Win works much better @ 50mg ed (yes you can drink it).

    I would change your cycle to:

    400mg of EQ/wk 1-12 (2 x 200mg/wk.
    50mg of Win/ed wk 10-15.
    Start clomid 1 day after last Win.

    Regards,
    LH
    cool sounds like a plan.. thanks!

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    Your body fat is way to high IMO for a Eq winny cycle.
    I would cut down before hand naturally and or use some clen to help you along.
    See how much you can drop naturally before u turn to AS.
    And when you do decide to start using definetly add test...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso
    Your body fat is way to high IMO for a Eq winny cycle.
    I would cut down before hand naturally and or use some clen to help you along.
    See how much you can drop naturally before u turn to AS.
    And when you do decide to start using definetly add test...
    i do plan to do cutting cycle be4 hand (don't plan to do this cycle for a few months). is there any reasoning why an eq/winny cycle would be bad tho? as i said i'm not looking to put on any more bulk. probably the wrong place to post this but here's a bad pic of me (at work all i have at the moment).
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    Last edited by bedrocked; 08-22-2003 at 03:57 PM.

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    Eq/winny is a cut cycle.
    I think a much better choice for cutting would be test prop/winny/clen , that's if you can handle ed or eod injections which I don't know if you should do that being this is your first cycle, and your not used to shooting up.
    One of the main reason's why I'm sort of against Eq/winny (with out test) is because a good friend of mine did a cycle like that a few months ago and he didn't get the results he wanted, plus he was tired all the time from the lack of test in his system.
    Eq/winny is going to shut u down. I'm not saying that it will effect you the same way it did him cuz everyone's different, but there's a good chance it might.
    If you do decide on winny/eq I strongly urge u to use some test E, even if it's a low dosage of 250mgs per week.

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    yeah 200/wk would be good. Personally though, I'm on a Eq/winny stack right now and I have insane energy. Hell, I have trouble falling asleep!

    Nixter.

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    If you are gona do it I like LongHorn's post, but I would definitely start to lean out naturally for about 3-6 months, then add the AS

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