Got my 2nd cycle planned, need some opinions though

**helios** · 08-25-2003, 12:20 AM

Well, I am starting my 2nd cycle in January but I am researching it now. I am looking to cut down on the bf% but also maintain the muscle, or maybe even gain some lbm. Anyway here it goes:

Test prop @ 100mg/eod for 10 weeks
Anavar @ 40 mg/ed for 8 weeks
Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off…ECA for in between weeks. Also not sure of the daily dosage I need some help with this.

L-dex @ .5 mg/EOD
Nolva @ 10mg/ed

What kind of PCT do I use for this cycle? Give me your opinions on everything you see here. Thanks.

-Helios

**Austex** · 08-25-2003, 01:08 AM

How much do you weigh?

**Austex** · 08-25-2003, 01:18 AM

PCT should be very basic. Anavar will not decrease your natural test production, so you could even get away with no PCT, except maybe some ephedrine.

**01dragonslayer** · 08-25-2003, 07:49 AM

Start your clomid 1-2 days after your last dose of prop at 300mg/1st day; 100mg/ED days 2-11; and 50mg/ED days 12-21. You plan on running the var wks1-8 or 3-10? Chech out the 'Educational Forum" on the T3.

**slobberknocker** · 08-25-2003, 08:43 AM

Add some fina since you're already injecting often. 75 eod or so.

**helios** · 08-25-2003, 09:02 AM

Im probably going to run the var from weeks 1-8 not 7-10, what do you suggest?

**Flounder** · 08-25-2003, 09:09 AM

I have no comment on your proposed cycle. However, I have a question and this is in no way meant to be a criticism Why did you decide to run test prop as your only test?

**helios** · 08-25-2003, 09:16 AM

Well I used test prop in my previous cycle and I know what to expect from it and was very happy with it.

Second, as far as I have read, test prop is the choice testosterone for a cutting cycle and to use with var.

Hope that answers your question Flounder.

-Helios

**BigGreen** · 08-25-2003, 09:21 AM

I think that's a solid and not overly ambitious cutting cycle. I'd consider trying to make the prop and ED occurrence, but if that's an issue, take the dosage up a bit perhaps. With prop (and even with anavar ) PCT should include your fairly 'standard' clomid therapy, imo. Lastly, why the nolva AND the dex? Are you extremely gyno prone? If not, i don't know that you need to have both in there by any stretch of the imagination.

**Flounder** · 08-25-2003, 09:21 AM

Thanks. Answers my question perfectly. I appreciate it.

**helios** · 08-25-2003, 09:35 AM

Thanks for the advice Big Green. My only reservation about prop ED is it is painful! Its still under consideration though.

As far as gyno goes, yes I do believe I am prone. I have a slight case of it as it is right now. I am looking to get it removed some time in December probably. I would be doing this cycle after the surgery and the last thing I want is a reoccurance.

Btw now that we are on the topic of gyno, did anyone see that VH-1 special on plastic surgery, one of the case studies was an actor getting his gyno removed. Pretty interesting.

**01dragonslayer** · 08-25-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by helios

Im probably going to run the var from weeks 1-8 not 7-10, what do you suggest?

IMO I would opt to run the var wks 3-10 so that your cycling both right up to your PCT.

**01dragonslayer** · 08-25-2003, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by helios

My only reservation about prop ED is it is painful!

Try cutting the prop with some sterile oil.

**helios** · 08-25-2003, 09:51 AM

I found this in the educational forum:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg (Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA stack

Has anyone else used this breakdown? what were your final results?

-Helios