New cycle - want some opinion

[FedSki]

Hi guys - long time no see (been busy - remember baby on the way).

Well I cut my second cycle short because of flu and then my holiday. During the cycle I put on 6lbs which I maintained without much training for about a month after my cycle (busy at work). Anyway my diet also went to shit and I've lost the 6lbs over the last couple of weeks.

So I'm back with a vengeance. Got a new diet plan and training plan all mapped out and I'm ready to start cycle 3 (or 2.5).

I had quite a lot of gear left over from cycle 2 and bought a little more. I have in my possession: -

300 Dbol 5mg tabs
20 Deca 200mg
20 Test E 250mg
30 Test P 100mg
30 Winny 50mg

My thoughts were to run the cycle like this: -

Week 1-5 40mg Dbol ED
Week 1-10 400mg Deca
Week 1-10 500mg Test E
Week 1-5 100mg Test P EOD
Week 8.5-13 50mg Winny ED

That cycle would leave me with just short of 15 amps of Test P so I could run some Test P EOD towards the end of the cycle. However I am tempted to continue to run the Test P EOD from the start until they are all used (Week 1-8.5). What do you guys think? I very nearly decided to take 100mg every day for the first 30 days - perhaps overkill?

For those that don't know me I'm 6'2" and 220lbs with about 14% bodyfat.

Thanks guys.

[FedSki]

Oh and I'm looking for solid mass - after this cycle I intend to cut up a little.

[Pheedno]

Week 1-5 40mg Dbol ED
Week 1-10 400mg Deca
Week 1-10 500mg Test E
Week 1-5 100mg Test P EOD
Week 8.5-13 50mg Winny ED

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Good to see you bro!

On the cycle I would make a few changes
1. I'd put the Test E at wk12 so that the Deca is tapered out a bit before and this will make recovery a bit easier.

2. I don't see a reason jumping with Prop and dbol. I'd just use the dbol

3. Add in the Prop at wks12-14 and go right inot clomid. I's also do 75mg ED= 525mg a week

4. Move the winny up to wk14 to accomodate the other changes

So:
wk1-5 40mg dbol ED
wk1-12 500mg Enan
wk1-10 400mg Deca
wk12-14 75mg Prop ED
wk8-14 50mg Winny ED]
Clomid 2 days out

.5mg of Ldex + 10mg of Nolva ED

[trimunex]

Since this is your 3rd cycle .. I'd go with either Prop or Dbol to 'kickstart', but not both. Otherwise it looks fine. Don't forget anti-e and pct.

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[JohnnyB]

I agree pick d-bol or prop to jump start, but not both and drop the winny. You could go something like this

1-4 jump start
1-10 test 500mg
1-10 deca 400mg
11-13 prop 100mg eod or 50mg ed

500mg of test enan will give you 360mg of test, 350mg of prop will give you 290mg of test. Which will keep close to where you were at during your cycle, you don't want to go over what you were doing during your cycle.

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

One more thing Bro if you havn't workout in awhile you may want to train for 3-6months before juicing.

JohnnyB

[FedSki]

Thanks guys (and thanks for the welcome back).

Johnny I'm curious to know why I should drop the Winny? I ran Winny at the end of my first cycle and it's great for hardening you up (as you know). I have been thinking that I could run the Dbol as a kickstart then finish off my cycle with Winny and Test P to harden me up.

What do you think?

[JohnnyB]

Thanks guys (and thanks for the welcome back).

Johnny I'm curious to know why I should drop the Winny? I ran Winny at the end of my first cycle and it's great for hardening you up (as you know). I have been thinking that I could run the Dbol as a kickstart then finish off my cycle with Winny and Test P to harden me up.

What do you think?

I didn't explain it very well sorry, if you go with the winny drop the d-bol, if you go with the d-bol drop the winny. I think it's to much stress on the liver.

JohnnyB

[FedSki]

I didn't explain it very well sorry, if you go with the winny drop the d-bol, if you go with the d-bol drop the winny. I think it's to much stress on the liver.

JohnnyB

Ah now I got yer. You don't think nearly one month off the 17aa mid-cycle is enough rest? I'm taking the usual liver protectants.

FedSki.

[JohnnyB]

Some say it ok but I always lean to the lower side of thing so I won't recommend it. But if your comfortable with, then go ahead and run them. Maybe cause I'm an old man, I tend to go a little slower

JohnnyB

[FedSki]

Some say it ok but I always lean to the lower side of thing so I won't recommend it. But if your comfortable with, then go ahead and run them. Maybe cause I'm an old man, I tend to go a little slower

JohnnyB

LOL. Thanks man.

I will drop the Prop at the start and run the Dbol only. I will then use the Prop at the end with the Winny to harden me up (hopefully).