cycle?

[Ice Man 41]

Hey guys-

I was wondering what you guys would think would be a great first cycle. I have 3 ideas and they are as follows:

1st
week 1-4 d-bol 30mg/day
week 1-10 sus ( omna 500mg/week)
week 13-end of bottle...nova...........clomid

2nd
week 1-4 d-bol 30mg/day
week 1-10 test( not sure which test to use yet) (500mg/week)
week 13-end of bottle...nova......clomid

3rd
week 1-10 deca (500mg/week)
week 1-10 test ( not sure which test to use yet) (500mg/week)
week 13-end of bottle...nova......clomid


Just wondering what you guys think i should use. Any advice weould be great since you guys know everything on this board!

Thanks,

[daWhoady]

I'd suggest the second cycle. Since you are jump starting it with d-bol, I'd go with Test Enan.

ALSO: stats would help.

[BIG BRUJO]

id do the second but run the dbol for 5 weeks, are you going to be running nolva throughout the cylce?

[Ice Man 41]

thanks guys-
i was only thinknig about using nolva during the cycle if i need it. But i will run it after the cycle. Also just wondering why do you choose test over sus? and why did you choose test enan?
Thanks for all the help!

[skii96]

#2

Sus is test its just a blend of long and short esters. IMO sus needs to be injected eod if not ed. Test enan is a better choice because it will keep your test levels more even throughout your cycle.

[Ice Man 41]

thanks for clearing that up for me. So then my cycle should look like this?

week 1-5 d-bol (30mg/day)
week 1-10 test enan (...mg/week)
week 13- end of bottel nolva

i have a questions then.........i looked on the cycles for the novice and it said that you only need 200mg test enan a week? what should my dosage be for the test then?
thanks!

[Ice Man 41]

Also what kind of gains can a person get for this cycle? and do you think that I should run nolva throughtout the whole cycle?

[the original jason]

i think the cycles you looked at are a little old, i would suggest 500mg per week for test and 400mg per week for deca for first cycle, depending on your stats and age of course? also keep nolva on hand as you said, or run it ed, its really up to you, you will feel yourself out on the first cycle

peace

[skii96]

thanks for clearing that up for me. So then my cycle should look like this?

week 1-5 d-bol (30mg/day)
week 1-10 test enan (...mg/week)
week 13- end of bottel nolva

i have a questions then.........i looked on the cycles for the novice and it said that you only need 200mg test enan a week? what should my dosage be for the test then?
thanks!

Those are outdated. 400-500mg/wk minimum IMO, so just do 500mg

[Ice Man 41]

ok thanks alot-

when should i do my shots.....1 time a week...2 times a week....or 3 times a week?

also if i do run nolva during the whole cycle do i still need more for pct?

[the original jason]

estrogen levels may be highest at about the end of your cycle, so if you dont have many at that time, get some more if its easy to get them, if its not then make sure you have enough before you start. Sometimes i have gone right through a cycle with no signs of gyno and heavy test doses then come to pct and end of cycle time, my nipples start to get sore, dont be caught out, 2 shots per week would be fine, mix the test and deca and shoot together

peace