First cycle advice! Please help!!

**kamikaze** · 12-23-2001, 06:13 AM

I am 34 yrs old and have been competitive bodybuilder for about 15 yrs.
I won a natural competition and placed 2nd, 3rd for a several times.
My stats are:
5'7", 190lbs(off),170(on with 5%bf)

I am very serious about using gear.
Please give me some advice.

wk1~8 Sust 250mg/wk
wk1~8 EQ 400mg/wk
wk1~3 Dbl 20mg/d

What do you think?
Do you think I should have at least 500mg/wk Sus?
and also is it better to have longer cycle something like 10wk?

**Gonna Be HUGE** · 12-23-2001, 06:22 AM

It all depends on whether or not they test you for the competitions. Also, I don't personally like sust, I would use T200 instead, but either way you need at least 400-600mg/w test. So, if you go with the sust, definitely do 500/w. Also, up the dbol to at least 30mg/d and run it for 4 weeks instead of 3.

I would run the test and eq for 10 weeks, but 8 is ok for your first cycle if you don't want to spend more. Make sure you have clomid for post cycle and nolv/arimidex on hand in case of gyno.

Other than that, looks great! Eat hard and start growin'!

**kamikaze** · 12-23-2001, 06:31 AM

I ordered clomid and nolva.
But I am wondering that it may be wiser to have arimidex also.
What do you think?

**Gonna Be HUGE** · 12-23-2001, 07:02 AM

At those dosages, nolvadex should be plenty. Actually you may not even need it at all (just depends on how sensitive you are to sides). I can usually get up to a gram of test a week and not see symptoms, but as soon as I stick myself with some deca , all hell breaks loose!!

But if it makes you feel safer, get it. It's never a bad idea too have to many anti-e's around, just expensive. You may want to look into liquidex (I like it much better than arimidex cuz its the same thing at half the price).

**kamikaze** · 12-23-2001, 09:28 AM

Thanks for the advice.
I will lokk for liquidex.

**jersey juice** · 12-23-2001, 10:10 AM

IMO, the perfect beginner cycle is 500mg test of any kind & 400mg of deca . If you want to kick start it use 40-60mg of dbol ed for the first 4-5 weeks. That will get you awesome results! Just remember if your gonna be tested that deca stays in the system for 18 months....

**kamikaze** · 12-23-2001, 10:14 AM

I wish I can use deca instead of EQ.
But I am planning on competing next year and I may need to have drug tested so I have to avoid using deca.

**Gonna Be HUGE** · 12-23-2001, 10:18 AM

I prefer EQ to deca anyways. Deca gave my symptoms of gyno even at 400mg a week. I have run both T200 and EQ as high as 1000mg a week without signs.... I just think my body doesn't like deca or something....