1st cycle finally

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 12:09 AM

need some help here....ok this is what I got...winstrol tads 2mg....primobolan 100mg amps

....stats: 25yrs old, 5'8", around 160lbs....this is what I was thinking.. about 20mg daly of the win and about 200mg weekly of primo...looking to do more cutting than gaining mass...how many days between the primo injects....looking to do about 8 week cycle....I'am I good to go or not

do I need anything for end of cycle like clomid.....

**bigkev** · 12-26-2001, 12:20 AM

that isnt a very good first cycle bro. you might want to research and rethink it.

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 12:23 AM

I don't want the stronger shit yet......plus I already bought it...I'am just getting my feet wet.....don't want to dive in head first...

**EXCESS** · 12-26-2001, 12:23 AM

I don't think you need steroids . Try eating more because its very likely that you can gain quickly at that weight. As far as the cycle that you listed, its too mild. If you do decide to try it, go for Primo@400-600mg/week for 10 weeks and Winny@50mg/day for the last 6 weeks. I thought about that cycle before but passed because its very harsh on the hair. You WILL need Clomid.

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 12:36 AM

well other then it being to mild for you guys how many days between inject..........

**Mallet** · 12-26-2001, 01:30 AM

When they say it will be to mild? there saying you won't likely see any results, whether it's your first cycle or your tenth cycle.

If your gonna do the gear anyway, Id add either some deca at
400mgs /week with the primo at 300mgs/week and the Winnie at 50 mgs/day for the last 6 weeks or add some d-bol at the start of your cycle for the first 4 weeks. 30mgs/day

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 01:40 AM

shit that means I got to spend more money

**EXCESS** · 12-26-2001, 01:51 AM

I agree with that you should add something to the cycle, but I'd pick EQ over Deca . And don't take D-bol if you're going to be taking Winny - thats too hard on the liver.

Try something like this:
Week 1-4 400-600mg EQ, 400mg Primo
Week 5-10 400-600mg EQ, 400mg Primo, 50mg ED Winny

Wait 3 weeks and then start Clomid therapy. Have Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno.

**Mallet** · 12-26-2001, 01:55 AM

Sorry Excess, I meant either or?

Winnie at the end or d-bol in the begining?

That's to much 17a

**EXCESS** · 12-26-2001, 02:00 AM

Thats what I thought. I was just covering a fellow Canadian's back!

**Mallet** · 12-26-2001, 02:01 AM

Now if the leaf's had backup like that...

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 10:41 AM

thanks for the input guys.. I guess I should add somthing

**jersey juice** · 12-26-2001, 11:00 AM

TEST!!! ADD TEST! Why do you guys always neglect the strongest male hormone?! Run test at 500mg a week, I'm right now taking 50mg of winny ed AND 60mg of dbol ed. I only have enough dbol for 2 weeks so it's a kick start, but I also have test & fina in there. Primo is not a steroid that yields a 20lb weight gain, either will EQ. Winny hardens you up and test cuts fat and packs on muscle. Just make sure to have milk thistle or ALA to protect your liver with the winny & dbol. BTW I'm not running the dbol for long cause like they said too much 17-a in the liver.

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 05:38 PM

stupid question here... what is milk thistle...where can you get it

**T-NUTZ** · 12-26-2001, 05:47 PM

milk thistle is an herb that helps to protect the liver. Its good to use it when dealing with some oral roids. You can buy it at any drug store. Rite-Aid, Walgreens, etc.

**newbie2** · 12-26-2001, 05:56 PM

do you take the milk thistle every time you take the orals...

**jersey juice** · 12-27-2001, 12:14 AM

You take milk thistle everyday like you take your vitamins...you do take your vitamins don't you

GNC has it, there's also ALA and some other stuff out there called Tyler's Liver Detox, do a search on the web and it'll come up and get one of them all are best but not necessary.

**REM** · 12-27-2001, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by EXCESS
I don't think you need steroids. Try eating more because its very likely that you can gain quickly at that weight. As far as the cycle that you listed, its too mild. If you do decide to try it, go for Primo@400-600mg/week for 10 weeks and Winny@50mg/day for the last 6 weeks. I thought about that cycle before but passed because its very harsh on the hair. You WILL need Clomid.

HEY EXCESS i was 130lbs skinny ass then i did my 1st low dose cycle, not knowing i gained 15lbs bro. now 2 years later i,m 160 5'8 trying to get bigger.

**REM** · 12-27-2001, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by newbie2
I don't want the stronger shit yet......plus I already bought it...I'am just getting my feet wet.....don't want to dive in head first...

newbie2 you should be able to gain some lbs but,
primo on a low dose is good for cutting purposes
that's what basically i got from the kind of cycle
cuts and good strenght.