max natural gains?

**floyd_turbo** · 10-02-2003, 07:34 AM

whats your opinions in general if someone takes sauce before reaching max natural gains...detrimental? i know it's recomended that you try and reach this stage prior to ever cycling but do you think it really has weight as a reason to wait for starting a cycle?? other then perhaps developing the dedication to make successful gains and keep these gains while cycling

thanks-

**floyd_turbo** · 10-02-2003, 07:35 AM

sorry bout the double post fella's

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-02-2003, 07:46 AM

Well, if you want, you can delete the other post. But, lets take me for example. Looking at my pictures from my last cycle, everyone would of lynched me if I just put up my before pic. I started wayyyyy to early!!!!! Am I happy with my results? Oh course, but If I could do it all over again, I would of sucked it up, trained harder and then hit the sauce. But, I'm different in that since I have low test levels, it is very hard for me to get big. But, again, looking back, I say I would of definitely waited.

**floyd_turbo** · 10-02-2003, 07:50 AM

do you mean that your gains would have increased by that much more? or just in terms of dedication and general knowledge of as

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-02-2003, 07:54 AM

All of the above. I think the biggest mistake people make is they think AS is the easy way out. But, I can say, I had to work much more harder to get where I wanted to be. though it's hard for me to get big, thats still NO excuse for starting to early.

**floyd_turbo** · 10-02-2003, 07:55 AM

thanks bro i appreciate your input
peace

**D3m3nt3d** · 10-02-2003, 11:34 AM

Yea, in no way is AAS the easy way out, I focus, eat, and train 100 times harder when Im on gear, not saying I dont train hard all the time, I just give 200% on juice