anti-este help

[sharky]

im 26yrs. old and have done at least 6 cycles. never one this big. wanted to know what my bros think i should take while on this one during and after. please add what kind/and dosage(per day or week)

test week 1-3 500mg/wk
week 4-6 750mg/wk
week 7-10 1000mg/wk
week 11-16 1100mg/wk
week 17-23 1000mg/wk
week 24-31 750mg/wk
week 32-35 500mg/wk

deca week 1-6 300mg/wk
week 7-14 450mg/wk
week 15-20 300mg/wk

d-bol week 6-11 35mg/day (30 days total)

[asymmetrical1]

im 26yrs. old and have done at least 6 cycles. never one this big. wanted to know what my bros think i should take while on this one during and after. please add what kind/and dosage(per day or week)

test week 1-3 500mg/wk
week 4-6 750mg/wk
week 7-10 1000mg/wk
week 11-16 1100mg/wk
week 17-23 1000mg/wk
week 24-31 750mg/wk
week 32-35 500mg/wk

deca week 1-6 300mg/wk
week 7-14 450mg/wk
week 15-20 300mg/wk

d-bol week 6-11 35mg/day (30 days total)

what kind of test? why pyramid? ill assume its ethanate. ok if your gonna run test and deca only, i would do something like this
1-2 1000mg/week test 2-24 750mg/week test
12-14 hcg
1-22 500mg/deca
25-28 clomid hcg
nolva/liquidex throughout
my 2

[dutchboy]

what kind of test? why pyramid? ill assume its ethanate. ok if your gonna run test and deca only, i would do something like this
1-2 1000mg/week test 2-24 750mg/week test
12-14 hcg
1-22 500mg/deca
25-28 clomid hcg
nolva/liquidex throughout
my 2

nolva and l-dex throughout?

What does nolva do that l-dex don't.....
Just curious I have nolva but have not been using it cause I figured l-dex did everything...

[asymmetrical1]

nolva and l-dex throughout?

What does nolva do that l-dex don't.....
Just curious I have nolva but have not been using it cause I figured l-dex did everything...

ldex does pretty much everything, i like the fat burning effects of novla and i also like to be extra safe especially with a longer cycle

[dutchboy]

thanks asy.

btw I hope that was't a hijack

I think I will start using my nolva also as I am carrying a little extra flab.

[djsir007]

What the hell is a hijack?
Take the D-Bols weeks 1-4 (30 days total), most people take them to get a jump start and if you take it later your test will already be kicking in.

[Rickson]

I would like to know the thought process on the pyramid especially the ramp down part. I think with an extremely long cycle you should run an anti-e like liquidex (1mg ED) or aromasin (25mg E3D) or femara (2.5mg EOD) along with a mild dose of Nolvadex (10 mg ED). I also think using HCG every 6 to 8 weeks to prevent serious testicular atrophy would be in order. I would switch to a fast acting ester at the end like prop and might consider a morning dbol bridge during PCT to ease any possibility of a crash. If you are comfortable with insulin use I might consider that post cycle as well to help with cortisol levels. If not there are some OTC supps that can help.

[abc 1]

35 weeks? 20 with deca ?

just curious, why so long?

[sharky]

thanks guys, i dont have to pyramid and it seems like all of you think i shouldnt so i guess i wont. i have always done it but will stop if you think it is better not to. on the length, i play semi-pro football and want it to last throughout the season. the only reason i was going to start the d-bol later was to let the tewst and the deca put a little liquid in my joints for comfort because when i do d-bol my strength shoots through the roof and joints sometimes hurt.

[Rickson]

I don't have a problem with the length of your cycle. I would stay with a steady amount but I run deca for 26 weeks every year and test 52 weeks a year. When you run a cycle this long you can add compounds in and out whenever you feel it is appropriate. PCT should be thought out well on this one or the crash could be hard.

[sharky]

ok, thanks rickson.