Cycle for the Experts

**Bartman83** · 10-05-2003, 09:57 PM

OK, here's the question:

I am looking for a cycle that A: must be out of my system within a year from now (i play university football, and will be tested), and B: retains the least amount of water (i need to stay a certain weight for Weightlifting Comps.) Strength is what i aim to maximize, without large gains in weight (water)

i was thinking of a Test/Dianabol /Winstrol cycle.. do you think that's a good idea for me?

**bigsd67** · 10-05-2003, 09:59 PM

I would say Test Prop 100 mg ED, Tren 75mg ED, Winny 50 mg ED rund the test and tren for 8 weeks, and the winny for the final 6. IMO

**956Vette** · 10-05-2003, 10:01 PM

what is your experience like?

**bigsd67** · 10-05-2003, 10:05 PM

ah..good questoin vette...i should have asked that first.

**Bartman83** · 10-05-2003, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

what is your experience like?

I have not taken any anabolics before.

***50%Natural*** · 10-05-2003, 10:13 PM

It sounds like a first time. You could take whatever test you like (enanthate would be easiest due to least amount of frequent injections) which will be out of your system in bout 4 months time. You could take some eq too. If it was a first time you could do the following.
wks 1-4 dbol 30mg ed
wks 1-10 enthate 500mg wk
wks 1-11 eq 400mg wk
PCT
Just a suggestion. Through more research you should be able to piece together a cycle that is good for you and what you need. This will all clear your system within 4 or 5 months. Good luck to you
-50cent

**KeyMastur** · 10-05-2003, 10:13 PM

yeah but how old are you ?

***50%Natural*** · 10-05-2003, 10:15 PM

Oh yeah, run nolva all the way through at 20 mg a day. I am not suggesting this cycle but presenting you with options depending on age and lifting experience.

**Bartman83** · 10-05-2003, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by KeyMastur

yeah but how old are you ?

Thanks for your advice so far...

I am 21

**iKNOW** · 10-06-2003, 06:58 AM

'Strength is what i aim to maximize, without large gains in weight (water)'

I say winny, var, halo, methyltest and tren are good choices here - no water and great strength increase. Since this is your first i'd say go with either winny or var, the other two compounds IMO should be left to more experienced users. Winny and var will give you slight anabolic edge with definite strength increase, but not as much as say halo or tren. You could run drols/dbols...just make sure you have an anti-a to keep water weight away.

**Bigboy123** · 10-06-2003, 09:44 AM

If you could afford it RUn ANAVAR ... Var is nuts with stregnth gains. at least 30mgs a day youll be more that happy.......run the var with test... Use it at the end of your cycle as a substatute for the win...