First Cycle Questions.

**British Bulldog** · 10-12-2003, 01:37 PM

I have some questions to ask regarding my first cycle which will consist of the following :-

weeks 1-4 dianobol 30mg per day
weeks 1-10 testex 250(cypionate ) 500mg per week
PCT:
week 13 clomid 300mg per day
week 14 clomid 100mg per day
week 15 clomid 50mg per day

nolvadex 20mg per day throughout entire cycle
proviron 50mg per day throughout entire cycle

Questions:
(1) I was considering including HCG in my PCT is this necessary? If so how much should i take and for what duration?
(2) Is proviron essential as i will already be consuming nolvadex throughout the cycle? Will proviron prevent bloating?
(3) Should i stop taking my anti-e's when i commence clomid intake or should i continue taking them until my clomid therapy has finished?
(4) This next question concerns pin size, i plan to rotate injection sites between the glutes, quads and delts. Are the following correct?:-
glutes 22 gauge, 1.5" needle
quads 25 gauge, 1"
delts 25 gauge, 0.5"
(5) When injecting the delts should i inject into the medial or rear head?

Any help is much appreciated, this is my first cycle so i want to be confident that everything is in order before i commence.

**TheMudMan** · 10-12-2003, 01:46 PM

1. No HCG will not be needed for a cycle like this

2. No Proviron is not essential. Yes it will prevent bloat and so will the novadex. Proviron will help with hardening up the muscle

3. Stop using the proviron when starting PCT it will hamper recovery of HPTA functions but keep using the nolva until the end of PCT.

4. Use 1.5" pinz in the glutes and 1" in all other sites. The gage is up to you but I like using nothing bigger than a 23g.

5. inject in the middle of the delt..... here's a good site www.spotinjections.com

Cycle looks great bro..... good luck!

**Da Bull** · 10-12-2003, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

1. No HCG will not be needed for a cycle like this

2. No Proviron is not essential. Yes it will prevent bloat and so will the novadex. Proviron will help with hardening up the muscle

3. Stop using the proviron when starting PCT it will hamper recovery of HPTA functions but keep using the nolva until the end of PCT.

4. Use 1.5" pinz in the glutes and 1" in all other sites. The gage is up to you but I like using nothing bigger than a 23g.

5. inject in the middle of the delt..... here's a good site www.spotinjections.com

Cycle looks great bro..... good luck!

The MudMan has spoken,listen to this guy he's awesome

**DocHoliday** · 10-12-2003, 01:53 PM

Mudman you beat me on this one.

Unless you want to harden the muscle appearance it is not needed. Run either nolva or proviron , there is no sense in doing both.

For pins you could just get a 25 G 1.5' for all, not like it would make a big difference.

Also, think aobut running clomid 300/200/100 instead of 300/100/50

Good luck, I just did my first shot today of EQ and Enanthate .

Doc

**WiLLpOwEr** · 10-12-2003, 01:54 PM

Looks like someone has been doing their research!

Great setup bro..you've got it all down pat.

Remember, your first injection will be the worst one. But after that it's cake -->

**realityarts** · 10-12-2003, 01:57 PM

Is that much Clomid needed? Just wondering... 300mg per day for a week...

**DocHoliday** · 10-12-2003, 02:00 PM

realityarts
From what I read yeah, for the first week it's a good level.

**TheMudMan** · 10-12-2003, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by realityarts

Is that much Clomid needed? Just wondering... 300mg per day for a week...

Good catch RA....... I think it's a typo....... it's obvious that this guy has put a lot of time into researching the cycle.

It should look like this:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg

**DocHoliday** · 10-12-2003, 02:01 PM

yeah mudman

my bad

**Da Bull** · 10-12-2003, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by realityarts

Is that much Clomid needed? Just wondering... 300mg per day for a week...

No 300 first day only,then 100 for 10 days 50 for 10 days

**DocHoliday** · 10-12-2003, 02:06 PM

thought 200 then 100, so I definitely over ordered on clomid. LOL whoopsie daisy

**Da Bull** · 10-12-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by DocHoliday

thought 200 then 100, so I definitely over ordered on clomid. LOL whoopsie daisy

You only need 36 pct....save them for next cycle

**realityarts** · 10-12-2003, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by DocHoliday

thought 200 then 100, so I definitely over ordered on clomid. LOL whoopsie daisy

Well, at least you'll have some around for any future needs. Better more than not enough

**British Bulldog** · 10-12-2003, 02:27 PM

Thanks bro's, great advice. Glad we've got the clomid situation sorted out. lol.
I should be starting this cycle in about six weeks, i'll keep you all posted on my progress.

**Da Bull** · 10-12-2003, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by British Bulldog

Thanks bro's, great advice. Glad we've got the clomid situation sorted out. lol.
I should be starting this cycle in about six weeks, i'll keep you all posted on my progress.

Good luck bro