DTG's first cycle *CRITIQUE*

[DTG]

my first cycle. constructive criticism from the bros is always welcome...
6 wks sus/tren

WK 1-3: sus@750mg tren@75mgED Proviron@25mg ED
WK 4-6: sus@250mg tren@75mgED Proviron@50mg ED
WK 7-9: Proviron@25mg ED
WK 9: clomid@300mg 1day/100mg 10days/50mg 10days

stats: 23 y/o 6'3'' about 225-230lbs 12%bf. been training for about 5 years

tell me what you guys think...

[The Natural]

my first cycle. constructive criticism from the bros is always welcome...
6 wks sus/tren

WK 1-3: sus@750mg tren@75mgED Proviron@25mg ED
WK 4-6: sus@250mg tren@75mgED Proviron@25mg ED
WK 7-9: Proviron@25mg ED
WK 9: clomid@300mg 1day/100mg 10days/50mg 10days

stats: 23 y/o 6'3'' about 225-230lbs 12%bf. been training for about 5 years

tell me what you guys think...

You should do sus for a longer period... since it kicks in at week 4 or 5...
So something like this:

WK 1-3: sus@750mg tren@75mgED Proviron@25mg ED
WK 4-6: sus@500mg tren@75mgED Proviron@50mg ED
WK 7-10: sus@250mg Proviron@25mg ED
WK 13: clomid@300mg 1day/100mg 10days/50mg 10days

or you can start the tren at week 4 to 10

BTW! I did a sus cycle and it went crap! But maybe that was because of the proviron... even though it doesnt say that in theory, but anyway... careful with the prov!

[Animal Cracker]

I would run the Sus steady throughout at 500 mg per week.

[The Natural]

I would run teh Sus steady throughout at 500 mg per week.

Actually me too! But I just followed his lay-out plan!

[01dragonslayer]

If this is your first cycle bro, I strongly suggest running a singled estered test i.,e., cyp or enth. Also tren is usually used by expirienced users and I would opt to eliminate that also. IMO you should run your cycle no shorter than 10wks because of long estered tests will not take effect to until the 3rd or 4th wk. Also there is no need to pyramid your doses. Run a constant dose through the entire cycle. How 'bout a test e/EQ stack. Excellent cycle for a newbie. Don't forget to have your anti-e s in order and, as always, clomid post cycle.

[TRE]

Do you already have your stuff or are you going to buy it. If so how much do you have. Its your first cycle so dont put anything more than 500 mg of test in your body a week.

[JohnnyB]

enan or cyp 350-500mg a week for 10-12 week, don't need anything else

JohnnyB

[The Natural]

I agree with the use of single ester cycle... if you dont already have the gear!

My sust cycle (first) went CRAP!!!!

Next up: BIGTIME enanth/EQ/deca cycle!!! :d

[DocHoliday]

Fist time. Go simple.

Like the experienced have spoken. Single ester test, like Enanthate or Cypionate. Lower dosages for longer periods. Again, like mentioned: 350-500mg each week for 10-12 weeks. Unless you know for a fact that you're prone to negative effects from estrogen (which I don't know how you would) just stick with Nolva as an anti-estrogen.

Also, you'll have to change your PCT aka clomid routine accordingly if you take our advice.

Doc

[DTG]

the only real gear i can get ahold of is sustanon so it looks like i'll be converting some syno with dazed's kit to add to my tren. thanks guys. how much prop should i run ED with the tren? how should i run the proviron? and when should i start clomid, 2 days after last shot?

[JohnnyB]

You don't need fina for you first cycle. Bro slow down, this isn't a sprint it's a Marathon, slow and steady.

JohnnyB

[DocHoliday]

Fist time. Go simple.

Like the experienced have spoken. Single ester test, like Enanthate or Cypionate. Lower dosages for longer periods. Again, like mentioned: 350-500mg each week for 10-12 weeks. Unless you know for a fact that you're prone to negative effects from estrogen (which I don't know how you would) just stick with Nolva as an anti-estrogen.

Also, you'll have to change your PCT aka clomid routine accordingly if you take our advice.

Doc

I quote myself.

Totaly agree JohnnyB.