first cycle

**rk713** · 10-18-2003, 07:58 PM

heys guys i am thinking of doing a cycle and would like yalls advice. I am 21 been lifting for about a year. im 5'7 185.9lbs at 14.4%bf. i am currently on a 3,500 cal a day diet. it consists of 60%carb, 20%fat, 20%protein. I want to gain muslce mass. What would u recommend for someone on a budget. I heard deca produces good results. i really want the most bang for the buck. And i was wondering how good of results has anyone seen from the growth hormones.I heard people have great results. If anyone could give me advice and info on this it would be greatly appreciated.

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 10-18-2003, 08:38 PM

test enanthate is a good place to start

search "first cycle" or "cycle help" and you shoudl find tons

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-18-2003, 08:56 PM

Well, growth Hormones is defintely Not your best bang for you buck. With GH, you have to be on for a min. of 3 months to see any benefits and your definitely aren't going to get big on GH alone. GH could cost you up to 900.00 a month. Also remember GH is NOT a steroid . Especially at your age,HGH would be a waste. I agree with Billy. The best bang for your buck will be a Test cycle. Don't don't Deca unless you add some test along with it. And also take some time researching post cycle thearpy. DO NOT start a cycle without it on hand.

BLT

**rk713** · 10-19-2003, 03:11 PM

u said test is my best bet. How much and how long can i take it? And what kind of gains might I expect? what do I need for post cycle?WIll it be worth it to stack with something else?Im just trying to find out everthing ahead of time.Thanks for everyones help.

**MBaraso** · 10-19-2003, 03:19 PM

Test enth @ 500mgs per week for 10 weeks.
Clomid post cycle.
And it's not a bad idea to add d-bol for the first 4 weeks @ 30mgs ed.
Just do some research on the 2 steriods we mentioned before u start.
Read the threads in the edu forums to start.

**rk713** · 10-19-2003, 06:00 PM

how much will it cost to do the test for 10 weeks? Use on 1cc a week of the test? How much clomid and when do i start it. I should do 30mgs a week of dbol .Thanks for your help

**MBaraso** · 10-19-2003, 07:07 PM

prices depend on your source.
read the clomid thread in the edu forum.

**rk713** · 10-19-2003, 07:12 PM

u know some typical gains from this cycle. I do 2cc test and 30mg of dbol a week right wanna make sure. whats the longest i can stay on test for.thanks

**MBaraso** · 10-19-2003, 07:19 PM

I'm not being a dick but you should use the search button.
Typical gains will depend on your diet. Anywhere from 12-20lbs.
Some ppl stay on test year round but your not going to do that since your new.
Don't go over 10 weeks for your first time.