pic of my gyno, for reference

**FCECC2** · 10-23-2003, 07:40 PM

this thing can grow in less than a week... i have upped the dosage to 40mg ed, but its still there...

here it goes:

**somedude247** · 10-23-2003, 07:59 PM

does this look like gyno to anyone else ???

**BDTR** · 10-23-2003, 08:00 PM

Yes, his nip is swollen and protruding, but its hard to tell from a foward angle. how about a side shot?

**realityarts** · 10-23-2003, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by bdtr

Yes, his nip is swollen and protruding, but its hard to tell from a foward angle. how about a side shot?

I agree. A side shot without the shadows would be easier to see.

Thanks.

LORDBLiTZ · 10-23-2003, 08:27 PM

It's better if you lift ur arm also.

**shim jahng** · 10-23-2003, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ

It's better if you lift ur arm also.

hmmm even though it is a front shot, his right nip does look different than the other, a little lower. i hope it goes down for ya bro. thanks for sharing, some of us (me in specific) are still trying to tell what the first signs look like. its easy when someone posts a link to a sight where everyone has huge tits. harder to tell if if just the way someones pec looks, or if its true gyno, again i wish you well man.

Shim

**armwrestler22** · 10-23-2003, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

this thing can grow in less than a week... i have upped the dosage to 40mg ed, but its still there...

here it goes:

hey trls63, can you tell us the cycle you're running, that gave you this gyno.

**FrkyBgStok** · 10-23-2003, 09:29 PM

bro, do you have a brand on your stomach????

**BRAVO** · 10-23-2003, 09:29 PM

I can't see much , are you having pain in your nipple?

**somedude247** · 10-23-2003, 09:35 PM

TRLS63 -- whats your bodyfat percentage...just wondering cause mine's about the same as you, but i have no idea what my actual percentage is...U have yours checked?

**BRAVO** · 10-23-2003, 09:40 PM

I hate to do this , but what is TRLS63? never heard of it.

**BRAVO** · 10-23-2003, 09:41 PM

ok the users name --I'm alseep at the wheel here....... damn..sorry guys

***JohnnyB*** · 10-23-2003, 09:46 PM

When you see signs of gyno you need 40-60mg until symptom are gone. If you are prone to gyno get some femara.

JohnnyB

**F40** · 10-24-2003, 04:43 AM

ARE YOU GUYS SURE THAT IS GYNO???

Because a hell of a lot of people have got it then - more that they know!

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 05:37 AM

yes its gyno, its almost gone but it still sensible. you cant miss the gyno symptoms. your nipple start to be very sensible then it start to hurt, you can also feel it with no problems, mine is about the side of a small raisin. i will try to take some better shots including side shot.

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by armwrestler22

hey trls63, can you tell us the cycle you're running, that gave you this gyno.

i was on 800mg of test-e for 12 week

***JohnnyB*** · 10-24-2003, 09:17 AM

Bro why 800mg? More doen't mean more gains, it's mean more of a chance for sides like the one you have. What your receptors can't handle will most likely be converted to a side effect.

JohnnyB

**abc 1** · 10-24-2003, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Bro why 800mg? More doen't mean more gains, it's mean more of a chance for sides like the one you have. What your receptors can't handle will most likely be converted to a side effect.

JohnnyB

that's funny you say that, i had posted in another thread commenting on him not needing 800mg of test. i feel the same way, more = more sides. this i know from experience.

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 09:38 AM

i was running it by itself. wrong move, i know. i did gain some quality muscle but with all the bad sides... dont worth the trouble

***JohnnyB*** · 10-24-2003, 10:53 AM

Bro did you use any anti-e's?

Bro I'll be doing my 3rd cycle at 500mg of test, you don't need to go up each cycle.

JohnnyB

**DocHoliday** · 10-24-2003, 10:57 AM

wow, 800?

It does look like gyno. The reason it looks like gyno, is I remember my nipples getting a bit like that as a teenager. Docs said that it was normal. You see young boys with puffy nipple areas like that. Do like Johny said, up the nolva to 40-60 till it subsides.

Good luck, 800mg is shit load.

**realityarts** · 10-24-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by F40

ARE YOU GUYS SURE THAT IS GYNO???

Because a hell of a lot of people have got it then - more that they know!

It is very difficult to see in that photo! If that is gyno, then I think most of the new guys at the gym have it - they don't use the juice but have puffy, cone-like tits...

I am not able to see in this photo too much, and I am certainly not discounting what others have said. I just find it fascinating how people in a forum can diagnose so quickly and suggest large does of medication from this photo.

I know...I know...."I've seen it hundreds of times, so I know what it is." Thousands of doctors would not make an accessment from this photo.

Care to post another photo?

[Again, I am not saying that others who have stated that it is gyno are wrong. They are probably right.]

RA

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 11:53 AM

i have use 20 mg ed of nol to prevent.
i will try to post mmore pics. i only got gyno in the right nipple

**realityarts** · 10-24-2003, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

i have use 20 mg ed of nol to prevent.
i will try to post mmore pics. i only got gyno in the right nipple

I hope it all works out well for you bro. We're looking forward to the other pics.

RA

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

i have use 20 mg ed of nol to prevent.
i will try to post mmore pics. i only got gyno in the right nipple

ooh my mistake... i mean 20mg EOD

**pumpseeker** · 10-24-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

i have use 20 mg ed of nol to prevent.
i will try to post mmore pics. i only got gyno in the right nipple

so you took 20mgs ED 1-12 of your cycle and still got gyno?

I'm getting ready to run my 3rd cycle with 1,350mgs/wk of test during the heaviest weeks so this is interesting. I know guys like bdtr have prolly done more.

**Ntpadude** · 10-24-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

this thing can grow in less than a week... i have upped the dosage to 40mg ed, but its still there...

here it goes:

Horrible gyno? Looks like a normal man's chest to me. I dont think its too late... I got some anadrol and was taking 2 a day (only been doing them about 5 days now) but I got the idea maybe my nipples are starting to point more so I dropped to 1 a day and took bunch of vitamen B-6 and the nipples quit pointing as much...

**Carlos_E** · 10-24-2003, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by SGFuryZ

Is it hard or squishy? I thought I had gyno once because I had that permanent "puffy nip" look. There wasn't and hard growths underneath it though. I got my b/f low enough and they eventually disappeared (I had them @ 9%, now I don't @ 7% bf)

From the cycle I just finished I noticed while I was on my nipples got soft/puffy the entire cycle. No sensitivity or lumps, just puffy. As so as I came off and started clomid and nolvadex, it went away in less than a week so I assume it was from holding water. Maybe you're holding water there?

**realityarts** · 10-24-2003, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

From the cycle I just finished I noticed while I was on my nipples got soft/puffy the entire cycle. No sensitivity or lumps, just puffy. As so as I came off and started clomid and nolvadex, it went away in less than a week so I assume it was from holding water. Maybe you're holding water there?

That's an interesting observation. I think it is also a possibility. Perhaps this is my people can so readily 'treat' it away(?)

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by SGFuryZ

Is it hard or squishy? I thought I had gyno once because I had that permanent "puffy nip" look. There wasn't and hard growths underneath it though. I got my b/f low enough and they eventually disappeared (I had them @ 9%, now I don't @ 7% bf)

its hard and painful when i squizz it.

heres a better shot:

**Ntpadude** · 10-24-2003, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

its hard and painful when i squizz it.

heres a better shot:

Wow... good pictures, now I think we know what to look for... its clear there is a cone shape going on in there but please tell me its not too late to reverse something like that? (I think everyone who just saw that picture is doing a self nipple check right about now...)

I hate to say it... is that a new Avatar you are using because you can almost see it in that picture too, more so then the picture you used to open this thread with.

**Carlos_E** · 10-24-2003, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by TRLS63

its hard and painful when i squizz it.

heres a better shot:

If the lump is hard and painful when you touch it, it is gyno. A friend of mine has the same thing and it looks like yours. He started a test/dbol cycle with no Anti-Es even though I told him not to.

He ordered nolvadex and it took 3 weeks for his order to come in. Now he has lumps on both nipples and you can see them through his shirt.

**OTC** · 10-24-2003, 04:41 PM

If its painful to the touch and has lumps, hasn't the gyno already set in, i.e. irreversable?

**Tank21** · 10-24-2003, 05:16 PM

It depends if it is permanant, some people, lik myself have been able to reduce or eliminate the lump with the end of a cycle or proper anti-e implementation. For most people it is permenant once the tissue is formed. It is just the sensitivity and the swelling that will go with the e's or end of cycle. I got to ask, if you are using all the nolva, and even taking 20 during the cycle, you must be really prone. I would be careful in the future. Take some femera next time. Maybe even get some femera, see if that will reduce the lump as well.

**FCECC2** · 10-24-2003, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Wow... good pictures, now I think we know what to look for... its clear there is a cone shape going on in there but please tell me its not too late to reverse something like that? (I think everyone who just saw that picture is doing a self nipple check right about now...)

i dont know if anti-e can totally reverse it but theres always surgery...

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

I hate to say it... is that a new Avatar you are using because you can almost see it in that picture too, more so then the picture you used to open this thread with.

yep i kno that :P

**realityarts** · 10-24-2003, 05:33 PM

I've seen a lot worse that is caused by water and/or fat retention... Your other symptoms (pain, lumps...) are the definitive factor.

Look at a bunch of before pictures of guys on weight-loss websites, they show cone-tits and puffy nips - never juiced. So, there could be other reasons, for those of you that this might be freaking out.

Sorry to hear about your symptoms...hope it gets remedied.

**hoss827** · 10-24-2003, 06:10 PM

Is it possible to get Gyno when you arent on juice..? hate to ask it, but i'd rather know then feel stupid for the rest of my life

**realityarts** · 10-24-2003, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by hoss827

Is it possible to get Gyno when you arent on juice..? hate to ask it, but i'd rather know then feel stupid for the rest of my life

As I understand it, there are circumstances that can cause a hormonal imbalance which can lead to gyno... One can also have a lot of chest area fat which can product similar effects.

**Red Ketchup** · 10-24-2003, 09:57 PM

Bro! Next cycle, Arimidex!!!! Run .5mg ed

Run adex when you do test or dbol. It ain't cheap, but man oh man does it work. Keep nolva on hand in case.

When on dbol-test-deca I had to run 20-30mg Nolva ED and the nips were mildly sensitive and I had mild, but noticable water retention. Last cycle dbol-test-tren I tried .5mg Arimidex EOD and not only were my nips not sensitive, but I had NO water bloat at all!

I am sold on that stuff!

Red

**pumpseeker** · 10-27-2003, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Red Ketchup

Bro! Next cycle, Arimidex!!!! Run .5mg ed

Run adex when you do test or dbol. It ain't cheap, but man oh man does it work. Keep nolva on hand in case.

When on dbol-test-deca I had to run 20-30mg Nolva ED and the nips were mildly sensitive and I had mild, but noticable water retention. Last cycle dbol-test-tren I tried .5mg Arimidex EOD and not only were my nips not sensitive, but I had NO water bloat at all!

I am sold on that stuff!

Red

That makes 2 of us. I've never done a cycle without liquidex (arimidex) !!! And I never got gyno. Coincidence?

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