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    Question 3rd cycle, hows it lookin

    Well this is my 3rd, so i,ll tell you my first 2 cycles 1st.
    1st cycle was 9 weeks long with 500mg test enth in the 1st week and 250mg for the rest with d-bals (nerabol) for the 9 weeks at 30mg/dat for the 1st 2 weeks and decressed by 5 mg/day every 2 weeks until i was taking 10mg/day.
    2nd was the same but only ran the d-bols from week 1 to 5 and ran testoviron at 500mg/week for 8 weeks.

    Heres #3

    Wk....Cyp......Deca .....Tren .........Winny........ clomid
    1....1000mg..600mg................................ ..........
    2.....500mg..600mg................................ ...........
    3.....500mg..600mg................................ ...........
    4.....500mg..600mg................................ ...........
    5.....750mg..600mg................................ ...........
    6.....750mg..600mg................................ ...........
    7.....750mg..600mg................................ ...........
    8.....750mg..600mg..80mg/eod............................
    9.....750mg..600mg..80mg/eod..50mg/ed...............
    10...750mg..600mg..80mg/eod..50mg/ed...............
    11...500mg..600mg..80mg/eod..50mg/ed...............
    12...500mg..600mg..80mg/eod..50mg/ed...............
    13...500mg..600mg..80mg/eod..50mg/ed...............
    14...250mg.............80mg/eod..50mg/ed...............
    15................................................ ............100mg/ed
    16................................................ ............100mg/ed
    17................................................ ............100mg/ed

    I have Arimidex 0.25mg tabs to take 1 tab eod through out the entire cycle and saw pallmeto and liquid milk thistle and will be drinking plenty of water and cranberry juice.
    I am currently 240lbs with 15 to 20% BF (i,m guessing) and 6'-1/2" tall. Been training for almost 3 years and want to gain around 15 GOOD pounds and harden up a bit. I will do cardio 3 or 4 times a week for 20 to 30 min each time. Oh and it,s all Chinese gear.
    Well what would you change if you were me?
    Thanks.
    Last edited by heyherc; 12-31-2001 at 05:44 PM.

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    Take the arimidex everyday.

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    Bumparoo!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm on the exact same cycle. Give us some feedback.

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    Whats up bro, a few things i noticed; your clomid timing looks off and id cut it to 12 weeks. After 12 youll probably have squeezed most of the lbs out of the cycle. Id run it something like this

    Wks 1-8 Cyp (frontload as planned)
    Wks 9-12 prop
    Wks 1-10 Deca
    Wks 7-12 fina
    Wks 7-12 winn
    Wks 1-15 Armdx .25 ed
    clomid during week 13


    Thats the way id run it, but thats just my style. I also think thats probably overkill for 15lbs but you know your body better than anyone. Best of luck

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    Wks 1-8 Cyp (frontload as planned)
    Wks 9-12 prop
    Wks 1-10 Deca
    Wks 7-12 fina
    Wks 7-12 winn
    Wks 1-15 Armdx .25 ed
    clomid during week 13
    perfect thats exactly how i would do it to apart from I wouldnt taper up and down with the test I would frontload then drop either 750 or 500 what ever is planned then run right through to week 8, clomid I would run 50/100/50 but thats just me start 3 days post fina and prop last shot. Run the prop about 150mg eod for the final 4 weeks so u can mix it with the tren

    peace
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    Thanks.

    Thanks for the tips but using Prop is not an option as i have enough cyp and tren for 3 or 4 cycles and am now completely tapped on funds to get anything else. That is also a problem with taking the arimidex ED, but if i run into a problem with that not being enough at EOD, i do have 50 nolva,s on hand.

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    understandable, then just make sure you time clomid right

    http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...=&threadid=646

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    this looks similiar to a cycle i use.....the frontloading of the test is good to get levels up fast.....i like to use something like dbol in the first few weeks to get me going.......why are you changing the dose of the test so much....frontload and then run one dose throughout your cycle (500 or 750)....no need to taper.....with eod arimidex , you may get some bloat, but you can most likely live with that......

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    forgot to mention.....you may want to change the clomid to a 100/50/50eod....and wait until 2 weeks after your last inject to start it......always worked great for me....
    Last edited by viperlingerfelt; 01-01-2002 at 07:25 PM.

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    Originally posted by viperlingerfelt
    forgot to mention.....you may want to change the clomid to a 100/50/50eod....and wait until 2 weeks after your last inject to start it......always worked great for me....
    Actually, i just looked at my printout of my cycle and i did have the clomid as you stated, must have been a typo on my part.
    As for the tapering up and down with the test, that is something that i have read numerous times so i figure it would be benificial but if it makes no differance then i may just run it at 750mg until week 10 and then gradually taper down to 250mg to lessen the "CRASH" effects.

    Thanks for the input, takin the 1st shot on Sunday. I,ll keep my results posted.

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    hey bro....i was trying to say...dont taper......it will not make the "crash" less severe.....if you want to stop the "crash" thing.....run some primo through the end of your cycle.......dropping to 250 will only decrease the amount of gain you accumulate.......run 750 the whole time bro.....

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    Originally posted by Psycoswole
    understandable, then just make sure you time clomid right

    http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...=&threadid=646
    Psycoswole, thanks for the link, probably one, if not, the most infomative thread i have ever read on Clomid therapy.

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