1st cycle...help please

[wingsofazrael]

after doing what i feel was enough research, i am ready for my first cycle. i am 23yrs old, 6'1" and weigh 224lbs at between 15-16% body fat. i want to add quality muscle mass, a decent quantity of it, and also try to decrease the body fat a tad. here is what i was thinking, feel free to leave me charred or help...

weeks 1-8 test e or sust 500mgs
weeks 1-5 mzl winny (50mg tabs) 150mg
weeks 6-10 mzl var (10mgs tabs) 210mg
armidex 1mg e3d
PCT starting week 11

anything there that could be improved on??? i can only run the test 8 weeks and deca stays detectable too long, therefore it will not be a part of this cycle. also is oral winny at that level gonna screw my liver very bad???

[FrkyBgStok]

if you are positive you don't want to run longer, start clomid week 12 (3 weeks sus)

[wingsofazrael]

should clomid be enough or should i use some HCG as well?

[FrkyBgStok]

HCG is not necessary for that short of a cycle, why are you running for only 8 weeks?

[FrkyBgStok]

um....i just posted.

[wingsofazrael]

i know, the refresh button screwed me and reposted my last reply somehow. i will have a drug test in early may that will be extremely comprehensive and i dont wanna take any chances with anything showing up. im not sure if they will test for steroids but i like to expect the unexpected as it usually becomes the expected for me.

[wingsofazrael]

shit...i dont know i may stretch the test e/sust (which ever i get) to 10 weeks. it depends. id like to throw in some primo but its just too damn rich for my blood.

[Da Bull]

after doing what i feel was enough research, i am ready for my first cycle. i am 23yrs old, 6'1" and weigh 224lbs at between 15-16% body fat. i want to add quality muscle mass, a decent quantity of it, and also try to decrease the body fat a tad. here is what i was thinking, feel free to leave me charred or help...

weeks 1-8 test e or sust 500mgs
weeks 1-5 mzl winny (50mg tabs) 150mg
weeks 6-10 mzl var (10mgs tabs) 210mg
armidex 1mg e3d
PCT starting week 11

anything there that could be improved on??? i can only run the test 8 weeks and deca stays detectable too long, therefore it will not be a part of this cycle. also is oral winny at that level gonna screw my liver very bad???

Go test e wk1-10 500mg wk 9-13 50 mg ed start pct day after winny.This is plenty for first cycle,go for quality mass.Just my .02

[FrkyBgStok]

it is expensive to test for steroids , so i doubt they will.

[wingsofazrael]

cool cool, bro. any and all suggestions most welcome.

[Vinyard]

definately run the test for 10 weeks

[FrkyBgStok]

at least....and since this is your first, i would run test by itself, but its up to you.