Winnie vs Var from real world exp.

Can someone explain the different actions of Var as opposed to winnie. I`m interested in real world experiance. From reading different profiles they seem similar.

I know var is a bit spendy but is it worth it

In otherwords what is each best suited for?

Example: Strength and lean muscle growth of each. Is one more toxic to the liver than the other? Sides of each?
What are they best suited for.

I found Var at a "reasonable" price and would like to know the pro`s and cons of each? I`m older than most and the joint pain I hear about Winnie is kind of a turn-off.

Both seem similar in profiles I`ve read except Var seems to have an edge in muscle developement.

Someone please in laymans term indicate the differences for me.

Are they run similar lenghts? what about comparable doses?
I see many run Winnie at 50ED what about Var at optimum(sp) dosage?

Help me out Bro`s. Skoooool me. Thanks DOUBLE J

are you planning on running an oral only cycle?

No No No. My fifth cycle. It goes along w/1gram test and other AAS`s through out 20 wks.

Winnie:
joints hurt, hairloss like crazy, 17aa. The gains suck but the hardening properties are nice but are quickly lose. dosage for me - 150mg

Var - expensive, no real sides to mention, 17aa but not really toxic. I've used it once at 40mg and didn't see much but a little strength gain. Next time im using 120mg and im sure it'll be a lot better.

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Originally Posted by bdtr

Winnie:
joints hurt, hairloss like crazy, 17aa. The gains suck but the hardening properties are nice but are quickly lose. dosage for me - 150mg

Var - expensive, no real sides to mention, 17aa but not really toxic. I've used it once at 40mg and didn't see much but a little strength gain. Next time im using 120mg and im sure it'll be a lot better.

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bdtr you are a freak....ur doses would have me in a coffin.... :lol:

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Originally Posted by bigsd67

bdtr you are a freak....ur doses would have me in a coffin.... :lol:

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His doses will kill most of us combined...

I took winstrol and I've learned I will never take it again. The joint pain was horrible. It made me stop 4 weeks in. I to this day feel the effects of it. It really screwed me up big time. I have no exp. with Var, but I'm thinking about running it with my next cycle.

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