Tren and Prop in same shot?

[highres604]

Hi guys,

First time posting on this board, but I have been coming here for information for months.
Jut a question, I am about to start 6 wk cycle of 75mg Tren and 100mg Prop eod. Is there a problem with putting them both in the same shot?

Also, this is going to be my second cycle, (first was 10 wks of 400 Test E & 400 Deca), I hav because read about how Tren is not for newbies. Why is that? is it only because of the possible harsher sides? I do know that after my first cycle, I was shutdown extremely hard months. (over 6 months a levels are not back to normal, and I did do the standard 21 day clomid therapy)
Can I expect to be shutdown just as hard? or worse? Should I do the same clomid? or should I also do Nolvadex too?

Thanks for any input.

[motoxxxguy]

You can mix the two in the same syringe without a problem. I would also say that you should expect to be shut down just as hard with 6 weeks of fina as you would with 10 weeks of deca. You are correct that the sides associated with even normal doses of fina can be more than other drugs, so a newbie would be wise to "get their feet wet" with other compounds.

The 300/100/50 clomid dosing is a guideline, and sometimes need to be tweaked for some people. I might suggest something like this, since you don't seem to recover well...
day 1 300mg
days 2-21 100mg
days 22-41 50mg

The timing of the clomid administration also has a lot to do with the effectiveness of it. Before you start with this modified clomid dose, When exactly did you start your clomid PCT with your previous cycle?

-moto

[KeyMastur]

no, there's no problem with putting them in the same shot.

i would think you can expect to be shut down harder from tren. bdtr's had the worst side effects, so just ask him. enlarged prostate, the works. but, it's a good thing you're running the prop alongside to try and help alleviate things.

[redrumkev]

another problem for newbies is the fact that a cc of deca and test a week for 10 weeks is 10 injects. 6-8 weeks of tren is 21 (6 weeks/eod) up to 56 (8 weeks/ed) so that in itself can be scary and something a novice might not want to go through. But yes the sides are harsher. Also AAS changes your body chemically, the other common 1st cycle things do this to a lesser degree which allows you to understand your body and what is happening, where something with more sides like tren or anadrol, will be new so you don't know whats going on. Save the tren for a killer cutting cycle along with eq/test/winny. I ran eq and test for 14 weeks and the last 6 weeks ran tren and winny. But that was my 2nd cycle. I couldn't even inject myself during the 1st cycle - had to have help. Hard to find help to do it for you everyday.

[motoxxxguy]

Good point on the ed and eod injects. I completely forgot about that part.

-moto

[highres604]

Thanks for the reply, guys.

Moto, With my first cycle, I stoped the deca 1 week before the test, then started the Clomid 2 weeks after last test shot. I was still feeling good until about 2 months later. I was all lethargic and gaining fat. so I got my levels checked and they were like 130!
So, there is no harm in taking the cloim for an extended period? what about the nolva or HCG? would they be any help?

[highres604]

oh and one more question, does it matter where I shoot? I am used to glute shots already, but I realize with eod shots, I am goin to have to shoot at other sites. I would like to avoid spot injects in the arms, etc. sounds very painful!. =D

I was thinking of rotating glutes, and quads. They seem like the most painless sites. what do you guys think?

[motoxxxguy]

Some people experience blurred vision while on Clomid. I never have, and I would think this would be the only side effect I could foresee with an extended time on. As far as the shots, as a rule you don't want to use any site more than once a week. Glutes, quads, and delts work fine. Go to spotinjections.com if you need some more info.

-moto