considering this as my first stack... thoughts?

[k_dogg]

hey guys,
ive finally managed to find good source at my gym
now these are my stats...
172lbs
6'0
25 yrs
training on and off for 4 years hard in the last year.

yeah im pretty lean but hard. i seem to be a bit of a hard gainer and something is coming up in 6 months wich very much requires me to have more meat on the bones so this is my reason.

now for the stack...
as i said i want to bulk. now i want to maximise my lean muscle gains because in the end its retainable lean muscle im concerned with. now i was thinking along the lines of this

wk 1-10 50mg winny eod
wk 1-10 400mg test enan

any thoughts or suggestions?
cheers

[arnoldwannab]

Bro, IMO at 172 I feel that there is still room to grow before you get on the juice. How is your diet? training routine? Rest? I would try to get all that in check before you decide to " get on ". Without a great diet the drugs aren't goin to do much for you. There's no need to put your body though anymore stress than needed.

[maxamillion]

first of all, don't run winny 10 weeks bro unless stiff joints and half a liver is what you desire.
wk 1-10 400mg test enan
wk 4-10 50mg winny ed
cheers

[KeyMastur]

how strong / what brad is your Enan ?? most i see these days are 250 mg / cc, unless it's an older version such as Brovel which weighs in at 200 mg / cc

i would go with this :

1-10 400 or 500 mg Enan (depending on quality)
7-12 50 mg winny ED

Most of your leanness will come near the end of your cycle, but it also depends on your diet.

[Billmister]

sneak in some eq in there weeks 1-10 400mg and it would be sweet.... nice pumps and food cravings ;-)

good luck

[k_dogg]

yeah ill cut that winny back a bit. 50mg ed or eod? the enan is 200mg/ml.
thanks for the advice all!

[BDTR]

Keymastur has it down perfect. You can go 400mg with the test as well.

[BASK8KACE]

sneak in some eq in there weeks 1-10 400mg and it would be sweet.... nice pumps and food cravings ;-)

good luck

Billmister,
Since it's his first cycle, I wouldn't recommend stacking a bunch of AS. After he tests the waters and learns from this simple cycle, maybe then he can stack more. I think it's important to encourage newbies to practice bit of restraint from rushing headlong into adding more AS.

k_dogg,
The cycle you listed looks good. I'd stick with the doses you have. The extra 100mg of Enanthate per week (400mg vs. 500mg) really isn't going to make much of a difference. KeyMastur already hinted toward this and I agree...If your Enan concentration is 250mg/cc, then it might be "easier" to measure out 500mg per week. If the concentration is 200mg/cc, then just stick with the 400mg per week.

[k_dogg]

Billmister,
Since it's his first cycle, I wouldn't recommend stacking a bunch of AS. After he tests the waters and learns from this simple cycle, maybe then he can stack more. I think it's important to encourage newbies to practice bit of restraint from rushing headlong into adding more AS.

yeah cheers... i was a little concerned about the higher dosages since i have never used as b4. i was of the understanding that i wouldnt be needing them and it would be best to keep it simple. cheers for clearing it up.

[LightWeightBaby]

how strong / what brad is your Enan ?? most i see these days are 250 mg / cc, unless it's an older version such as Brovel which weighs in at 200 mg / cc

i would go with this :

1-10 400 or 500 mg Enan (depending on quality)
7-12 50 mg winny ED

Most of your leanness will come near the end of your cycle, but it also depends on your diet.

This a good cycle right here, I do not like to run orals for more than 4 weeks so i would run winny just for weeks 8-12. Follow week 12 up with PCT clomid.

[asymmetrical1]

This a good cycle right here, I do not like to run orals for more than 4 weeks so i would run winny just for weeks 8-12. Follow week 12 up with PCT clomid.

run winnie 50mg for 6 weeks

[k_dogg]

This a good cycle right here, I do not like to run orals for more than 4 weeks so i would run winny just for weeks 8-12. Follow week 12 up with PCT clomid.

its actually injectable stanazol ill be taking... not winny tabs. 50mg/ml stan.
so so far im looking at
1-10 test enan 400mg/wk
7-12 stan (50mg/ml) 1ml ed

sound good?