2nd Cycle

**JEO3** · 11-08-2003, 01:18 AM

I am trying to research for my second cycle. I am in the midst of my first cycle now. A light test only cycle:

Week 1-10
500mg test enanthate /week
PCT: Clomid 300/100/50
Nolvadex 30mg a day for two weeks after cycle

For my second cycle i am thinking about stacking the enanthate with dbol . My question is should I change my PCT at all for the stack? And, is 15mg of dbol a day enough? Goals are bulking/mass.

Week 1-10 500mg enanthate
Week 1-4 15mg/week of dbol

**MBaraso** · 11-08-2003, 05:13 AM

See how you do from this cycle and what u keep.
Time on = Time off.
And No 15mgs ed of d-bol isn't enough IMO.
30mgs ed is the norm for 4 weeks.
Clomid will be the same unless your using deca .
Goodluck,

**Testify** · 11-09-2003, 09:50 AM

Definitely need to up the Dbol . The rest looks good. Pct as usual.

T

**Madmax** · 11-09-2003, 10:55 AM

why not run a 10 weeker and add deca ..somehting like this..

d-bol 35mg ed (1-4)
deca 400mg (1-10)test 600mg (1-10)
winstrol 50mg ed (8-13)

**JEO3** · 11-09-2003, 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=Madmax]why not run a 10 weeker and add deca ..somehting like this..

d-bol 35mg ed (1-4)
deca 400mg (1-10)test 600mg (1-10)
winstrol 50mg ed (8-13)[/QUOTE

was concerned with decca dick and etc. Would the ptc be the same with this cycle too?? What is the advantage of adding three different types?

**Ntpadude** · 11-09-2003, 12:45 PM

[QUOTE=JEO3]

Originally Posted by Madmax

why not run a 10 weeker and add deca ..somehting like this..

d-bol 35mg ed (1-4)
deca 400mg (1-10)test 600mg (1-10)
winstrol 50mg ed (8-13)[/QUOTE

was concerned with decca dick and etc. Would the ptc be the same with this cycle too?? What is the advantage of adding three different types?

Add a week of pct and more test then deca and it works great, no deca dick.

**Da Bull** · 11-09-2003, 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=JEO3]

Originally Posted by Madmax

why not run a 10 weeker and add deca ..somehting like this..

d-bol 35mg ed (1-4)
deca 400mg (1-10)test 600mg (1-10)
winstrol 50mg ed (8-13)[/QUOTE

was concerned with decca dick and etc. Would the ptc be the same with this cycle too?? What is the advantage of adding three different types?

running similar cycle,add clomid 1 more week to be safe

**JEO3** · 11-09-2003, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

running similar cycle,add clomid 1 more week to be safe

do you guys start nolva the week after your last week of cycle or take it throughout cycle??

**tmeoe** · 11-09-2003, 02:07 PM

If you do decide to run deca , i'd get some Bromo to combat any progesterone gyno. As for the nolva, you can run it 10-20mg ed if you feel you need to. It'll keep some of the bloat down from the D-bol and test and help prevent gyno at the same time!!!