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    Fina/Winny Cycle... What you guys think

    Hey Bros,

    I am thinking about doing something like this:

    wks 1-8: Fina 75mgs EOD
    wks 3-8: Winny 50 mgs ED

    Will be taking massive amounts of vits B5 and B6 to help with fina gyno and zits.

    This is supposed to be a lbm cutting cycle, so I don't really want to add test to it.

    Clomid for PCT 300/100/50.

    What you bros think?

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    What are your stats: age, height, weight, cycle exp.

    Also you need to run test in that cycle......... the fina will shut you down

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    That's a good cutter, but you may want to add a little bit of test.

    Hope you're not prone to hairloss.

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    I am 28 years old, 6'2, 190 lbs. I dont think I am prone to hairloss, but who knows...

    The thing with test is that I can't get a hold of it right now... Is there anything else I can do to prevent fina from shutting me down?

    Can I expect any mass gains from this cycle?

    Thanks a lot for the help bros

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    That's a good question, bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyll
    I am 28 years old, 6'2, 190 lbs. I dont think I am prone to hairloss, but who knows...

    The thing with test is that I can't get a hold of it right now... Is there anything else I can do to prevent fina from shutting me down?

    Can I expect any mass gains from this cycle?

    Thanks a lot for the help bros
    What do you have 2 screen names

    You can get winny but can't get a hold of test? .............. Well, I wouldn't run the cycle without some type of test but because you say you can't get it you could try running proviron at 50mg ED.............. No matter what you will get shut down but the test would still let you get a hard on...... without test you run the risk of getting Fina Dick.

    You should see good gains from the fina but you would have seen better gain if you run test in the cycle

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    Hey mudman,

    Thanks for your reply... No I dont have two screen names, but I am posting from work and I know other bros here use the forum too, so I am guessing that's it...

    I may be able to get a hold of test but it may take a while, but maybe I should wait. How long does fina dick last?

    Thanks a lot man

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    What about stacking fina and EQ? A friend has been thinking about doing that cycle, is it a better cycle? Does EQ help with the shutdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roar
    Hey mudman,

    Thanks for your reply... No I dont have two screen names, but I am posting from work and I know other bros here use the forum too, so I am guessing that's it...

    I may be able to get a hold of test but it may take a while, but maybe I should wait. How long does fina dick last?

    Thanks a lot man
    If this is your first cycle I wouldn't use Fina. I would either run a Test only or Test/EQ cycle. See if you can get a hold of test cyp or enan.

    Run something like this:

    1 - 12 EQ 400mg
    1 - 13 Test Enan 500mg
    1 - 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED

    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of EQ:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg

    Or run a test only cycle like this:

    1 - 10 Test Enan 500mg
    1 - 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection of Enan:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg

    Both of this cycle will give you very good gains IMO.

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    sounds sweet

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    This is the thing my source told me I could add EQ to my cycle and that it would be comparable to adding test, but less sides, including water retention. I kind of liked that because this is supposed to be a cutting cycle, and test makes me puffed

    Is that the case or is he full of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roar
    This is the thing my source told me I could add EQ to my cycle and that it would be comparable to adding test, but less sides, including water retention. I kind of liked that because this is supposed to be a cutting cycle, and test makes me puffed

    Is that the case or is he full of it?
    Your source is wrong............. EQ is no way comparable to Test. If you are worried about bloat then run anti-e's like nolvadex and you can also use liquidex.

    You need to do a some research for yourself and stop listening to your source.

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    thanks mud

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    Or Proviron also is good. It maybe a good idea to read the profile on both to get your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUGTM1SS
    Or Proviron also is good. It maybe a good idea to read the profile on both to get your answer.
    Proviron will help with erections but I would never use it in place of test JMO

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    Does Proviron help with mass gains like test does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roar
    Does Proviron help with mass gains like test does?
    No............ it's main role is used as an anti-e............ it has been know to harden up muscles.......... but your bf needs to be low to see the results. It's cost weighs out the results IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    If this is your first cycle I wouldn't use Fina. I would either run a Test only or Test/EQ cycle. See if you can get a hold of test cyp or enan.

    Run something like this:

    1 - 12 EQ 400mg
    1 - 13 Test Enan 500mg
    1 - 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED

    Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of EQ:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg

    Or run a test only cycle like this:

    1 - 10 Test Enan 500mg
    1 - 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection of Enan:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / Nolva 20mg

    Both of this cycle will give you very good gains IMO.
    I agree. These are good beginning cycles.

    TheMudMan, I'm guessing you chose 500mg ew of testosterone as a basis of each cycle under the assumption that the concentration of the given testosterone is 250mg/ml; thus making it "easier" to inject 250mg twice per week. 500mg per week of thest can be higher than what some people need to grow. If the concentrations are 200mg/ml, the person would do just as well using 400mg per week or perhaps less.

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    Thanks, bros. I appreciate all the help. Hopefully I can get a hold of some test. What about the liquid versions of nolva? Are they just as effective?

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