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    What is best for 1st cycle... SUS or CYP? Help bros

    What you guys think? This is my first cycle and my source can only get me test cyp. I wanted to go with Sus what do you guys think, will cyp do the job?

    THanks bros

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    I would prefer to see a first cycle be a single ester test (cyp).

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    And yes it will do the job, very well.

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    personally i think you would be better off with the cyp anyway.

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    Thanks bros, you guys are great...

    That's what he told me... Why is that since sus is supposed to have 4 different tests? What makes cyp better?

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    This is what I am thinking:

    wks 1-12: cyp 400 mg/wk
    wks 1-12: EQ 400 mg/wk
    wks 7-14:Fina 75mg EOD
    wks 1-15: Nolva 10mg day

    PCT w/clomid and nolva

    Any suggestions? How often should the cyp shots be taken?

    Thanks!!!!!!!!

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    Its not thats its better, if you expose your receptors to sus now it will not have the impact it would have in your second or third cycle. You will have great gains with cyp. so just save the sus for your second or third. Trust me this one won't be your last...............

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    I see that makes sense!!

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    cyp 500mg week split shots twice a week
    eq 400mgs week just inj with the cyp
    Save your fina

    This reminds me of.............

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    Well, since it's your first cycle, I'd drop the fina. Definitely go with CYP, less injections!!!!

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    how often are cyp injections?

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    For real bro being your first just save the fina, three compounds is going to be rough and you will have a hard time telling what each is doing to you. Test and eq is good for the first time. What are your stats?

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    Twice a week mon/thurs example.SG1

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    Inject mon and thur. 250mgs and you can use the same syringe for the eq. (don't reuse just put it all in one syringe and inject).

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    quick stats

    6'2, 187 lbs, 27 yrs

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    so no fina you bros think

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    I wouldn't, just stick with test and eq. If diets right and you train hard you should have awsome results.

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    That sounds good, thanks daddy

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    I'd stick to the cyp at 400mgs/wk, easier to dose out that way and more cost efficient for your cycle. It won't make or break gains using 400mgs/wk. Now if it were enanthat go ahead and use 500mgs/wk, this is because the 10ml cyp has a concentration of 200mgs/ml (usually) and enanthate has 250mgs/ml. Surprisingly both are about the same cost and effectiveness.

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    Hey tmoe, I don't get it...

    You said to stick to the cyp at 400 mgs/wk and that it won't make or break gain using 400 mgs/wk? Should this second mgs be different or if they're the same I don't know what you meant... Can you explain??

    Also, at 400mgs/wk, twice a week, does that mean I will be taking 200mgs with each pin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyll
    Hey tmoe, I don't get it...

    You said to stick to the cyp at 400 mgs/wk and that it won't make or break gain using 400 mgs/wk? Should this second mgs be different or if they're the same I don't know what you meant... Can you explain??

    Also, at 400mgs/wk, twice a week, does that mean I will be taking 200mgs with each pin?

    Hahahahaha, sometimes my brain gets ahead of my hands when i type!!!

    Sorry bro, i meant using 400mgs/wk will not be a huge difference from using at 500mgs/wk. The gains are up to you really. Post your exact diet Pro, Carb, Fat, Cal, meals and your training split. You'll get some great feedback on what to improve on.

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    It is no problem, bro...

    I'll do that Should I post over here or on the fitness forum?

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