What is a good first cycle test.

[brandon707]

i need to know what a good first cycle test would be. i was thinkin along the lines of test400 but i want to plan out my cycle as perfect as possible. so if you guys have any other suggestions please feel free to say so.

age 22, 6'2" 195

Upcoming cycle Dec.
weeks (1-4) 25 mgs (ed) reforvit simple tabs (dbol)
weeks (1-10) some type of test most likely T400 (prolly 300-400 mgs ew)not sure
weeks (1-10) 20mgs of nolva (also have 280 mgs extra just in case)
weeks (13-16) clomid 300/100/50

i am also on a strict diet. i think i will be satified with my cycle i plan to gain atleast 15-20lbs. i just need all of you bros to help me get there

[brandon707]

i need to know what a good first cycle test would be. i was thinkin along the lines of test400 but i want to plan out my cycle as perfect as possible. so if you guys have any other suggestions please feel free to say so.

age 22, 6'2" 195

Upcoming cycle Dec.
weeks (1-4) 25 mgs (ed) reforvit simple tabs (dbol)
weeks (1-10) some type of test most likely T400 (prolly 300-400 mgs ew)not sure
weeks (1-10) 20mgs of nolva (also have 280 mgs extra just in case)
weeks (13-16) clomid 300/100/50

i am also on a strict diet. i think i will be satified with my cycle i plan to gain atleast 15-20lbs. i just need all of you bros to help me get there

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[MikeMC]

Enth...is what ive been told

[01dragonslayer]

I would hold off on the dbol for now. How 'bout just a simple enth/EQ cycle for 10-12 wks along with your anti-e throughout and of course post cycle clomid.

[TRE]

400 or 500 mg of test a week would be good. Pick from either cyp or enth. Also if you choose to run reforvit up it to 2 pills a day. They are always underdosed and you would be wasting your pills by taking 1 a day.

[daWhoady]

What TRE said. 400-500 mg a week of Test Enth or Cyp would be good. I'd also extrend it to 12 weeks, but 10 will work. Everything looks good.

[lozinit]

I'd have to put my vote in for 500mg Enanthate weekly.

I've researched and planned out my first cycle and feel comfortable with the Dbol/Test Enan. stack. (Dbol for wk 1-4, Test for wk 1-10)
Dragon, I'd like to pick your brain and see your views about holding off on the dbol.

[the dent depot]

Drop the dbol...see how your body responds to one AAS at a time bro. Keep it at 350ish mg/wk...you'll grow like a freakin weed, BUT.......only if your diet/training/sleep are all on the ball. Take any one out of the equation and the magic wont happen.

JMHO

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[LightWeightBaby]

I would hold off on the dbol for now. How 'bout just a simple enth/EQ cycle for 10-12 wks along with your anti-e throughout and of course post cycle clomid.

yeah definatelt test e 500mg and 400mg EQ, you will see good gains from this cycle as long as u make sure your diet is also in check.

[the dent depot]

yeah definatelt test e 500mg and 400mg EQ, you will see good gains from this cycle as long as u make sure your diet is also in check.

500mg test and 400mg EQ for a 1st cycle? Hell, I won't even be doing that much for my 5th...if he has any undesirable effects how will he know which one is giving them?

JMHO

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[asymmetrical1]

stick with the dbol and test first cycle....eq not needed on a first

[RussianVodka]

At my first cycle I did 200mg/week test cyp for 12 weeks. Got 15lbs lean mass. Bench press +20lbs, dead lift +45lbs, squat +40lbs.

[arnoldwannab]

My first cycle consisted of 500mg sus and 400mg EQ. It worked Very good for me i put on about 17 solid lb's

[arnoldwannab]

500mg test and 400mg EQ for a 1st cycle? Hell, I won't even be doing that much for my 5th...if he has any undesirable effects how will he know which one is giving them?

JMHO

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This is a relatively low dose cycle for a beginner. It wont do him much harm but will give him great gains.

[asymmetrical1]

My first cycle consisted of 500mg sus and 400mg EQ. It worked Very good for me i put on about 17 solid lb's

with dbol and a long ester test you can tell how your body reacts to the dbol and to the test. by running eq 10 weeks and running test 10 weeks, you won't be able to distinguish what is doing what to your body

[the dent depot]

At my first cycle I did 200mg/week test cyp for 12 weeks. Got 15lbs lean mass. Bench press +20lbs, dead lift +45lbs, squat +40lbs.

Brilliant...exactly as it should be done!


As for most of the other advice........fucking people are still thinking more is better......what a waste..

JMO

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[brandon707]

i still want to do the dbol to "jump start" my cycle. but if you guys recommend just doing a test only cycle i may just do that. but im not to sure to why drop the dbol and do a test only cycle. how much weight do you guys think i would gain by doing my original planned cycle versus a test only cycle (prolly ethn)? keep in mind i have a my diet all planned out and i get plenty of rest periods too.

thanks

[brandon707]

i still want to do the dbol to "jump start" my cycle. but if you guys recommend just doing a test only cycle i may just do that. but im not to sure to why drop the dbol and do a test only cycle. how much weight do you guys think i would gain by doing my original planned cycle versus a test only cycle (prolly ethn)? keep in mind i have a my diet all planned out and i get plenty of rest periods too.

thanks

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[asymmetrical1]

i'm recommending a test and dbol cycle

[TheMudMan]

Run the d-bol to jump start it.......... It will not hurt anything

1 - 4 D-bol 30mg ED

[brandon707]

Run the d-bol to jump start it.......... It will not hurt anything

1 - 4 D-bol 30mg ED

alright will do. thank you all for the wonderful you have provided me. i love this forum