test/eq

**DMC** · 11-14-2003, 04:55 PM

i just started on a test/eq cycle 400 mg each a week spilt in 2 shots. i will eat clean and make sure that i get more than enough protein and water.what kind of results can i expect?i know i will gain size but will i tighten up?i am starting with cardio 3x a week and then at week 6 i will up it to 2 a day so it will be 6/ what do you think???

**motoxxxguy** · 11-14-2003, 05:01 PM

It's very hard to say what you will gain from any particular cycle, especially if you don't give us any stats to work with. First of all, age, weight, height, BF%, training history, etc. Second, what do you consider "more than enough protien"?

-moto

**bouya_ak** · 11-14-2003, 05:04 PM

Is this your first cycle?
what do you have for PCT?

**DMC** · 11-14-2003, 05:08 PM

not my first cycle . i am 5'8" 195 bf% ? mabye 16-18% trained on and off for 6 years.train heavy right now 6-8 reps but around week 7 i will go with higher reps 15-20

**bouya_ak** · 11-14-2003, 05:14 PM

cardio will burn fat, test also help's, have you ever tryed clen ? or ECA, are you running any anti e's for water retention,or gyno

**DMC** · 11-14-2003, 05:30 PM

tried clen it did nothing for me. gonna use liqiedx for water retention and clomid for gyno or is there something better for water retention?

**bouya_ak** · 11-15-2003, 04:29 AM

Femera would probly work the best

**TheMudMan** · 11-15-2003, 09:08 AM

I wouldn't use femera as a anti-e unless I know I was prone to gyno......... Too strong and too expensive. L-dex is good but I would also combine nolva with it. l-dex can have a negative impact on your lipids..... the nolva will help that.

DMC - you need to look at your diet......... there may be a reason you're not getting to your goals and I would say 90% of the time it comes down to diet. AS is a tool to help us get to our goals it's not a guarantee.

**DocHoliday** · 11-15-2003, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

I wouldn't use femera as a anti-e unless I know I was prone to gyno......... Too strong and too expensive. L-dex is good but I would also combine nolva with it. l-dex can have a negative impact on your lipids..... the nolva will help that.

DMC - you need to look at your diet......... there may be a reason you're not getting to your goals and I would say 90% of the time it comes down to diet. AS is a tool to help us get to our goals it's not a guarantee.

Amen to diet. It’s key to all.

Hey MudMan, what negative effects does Liquidex have on your lipids? What lipids are you talking about?

Doc