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    First Cycle Advice

    im about to start my first cycle which so far looks like this:
    Test E 300mg/week x 8 weeks
    EQ 250mg/week x 8 weeks
    (maybe) DBol 30mg/day x 4 weeks
    Nolva on hand
    Liquidex (how much should I take/day?)
    PCT ->Clomid

    I wanted to run it for at least 10 weeks but my source only sells in cycles, so would have to buy another entire cycle to extend it only two weeks...need advice on what I need to supplement with this to help liver and anything else...thanks...

    FL

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    We need stats to help you bro........... Age, weight, height, bf %

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyLad
    im about to start my first cycle which so far looks like this:
    Test E 300mg/week x 8 weeks
    EQ 250mg/week x 8 weeks
    (maybe) DBol 30mg/day x 4 weeks
    Nolva on hand
    Liquidex (how much should I take/day?)
    PCT ->Clomid

    I wanted to run it for at least 10 weeks but my source only sells in cycles, so would have to buy another entire cycle to extend it only two weeks...need advice on what I need to supplement with this to help liver and anything else...thanks...

    FL
    how about some stats, and milk thistle will aid in liver control

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    We need stats to help you bro........... Age, weight, height, bf %

    mud you beat me to it, hey BTW did you get my PM

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    21, 5'8", around 175...bf is around 15% now I would guess...i wanted to cut down a little more before I got started, but am living in a different state for the next 8-9 weeks, so Im living a lot healthier since am away from school, and can easily stay away from the alcohol while im on here...

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    You will need to run the EQ to at least week 12......... 12 weeks is minimum with EQ to see results.

    With what you have this is what I would run:

    1 - 4 D-bol 30mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 500mg
    1 - 12 EQ 400mg
    1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 15 l-dex .25 ED

    PCT starts 2 weeks after last Enan injection

    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

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    is it really necessary to run the nolva ed? Thought it was just good to have on hand in case gyno popped up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyLad
    is it really necessary to run the nolva ed? Thought it was just good to have on hand in case gyno popped up...
    I run nolva every cycle................. it has more benifits then just helping keep bloat down, keeping gyno from developing.................. also since you want to run l-dex it would be wise to use nolva..... it will keep lipids stable as well.

    Why don't you want to run nolva?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I run nolva every cycle................. it has more benifits then just helping keep bloat down, keeping gyno from developing.................. also since you want to run l-dex it would be wise to use nolva..... it will keep lipids stable as well.

    Why don't you want to run nolva?
    I think one of the other benefits that TheMudMan was referring to is the positive effect of nolvadex on lipids. Personally I've only used arimidex , with no adverse effects.

    If you want more information on running nolvadex with cycles, you might want to do a search on posts made by Pheedno on nolvadex and lipids. Here's a thread in which Pheedno writes out some info regarding this:

    http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=68786

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