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[jms462]

I wanna run a short cycle Just want to get a little stronger and alot more ripped:

weeks 1-6 Tren 152mgs per week
weeks 3-8 Winny Depot EOD and Anavar 30mgs ED

Background: I am sensitive to gyno have experienced it in a winny only cycle


Question

1) Will I see any results from the tren at such a low dosage?
2) Would you recommend I take Arimadex instead of Nolvadex?

Any help is appreciated

[TheMudMan]

What are your stats.... age, weight, height............

[monster.]

damn, gyno sensitivity with winny
fina i know doesn't aromatize, or aromatizes slowwwwwly...but damn run some armidex or liquidex with that, that is the strong/ripped cycle though, fina/winn.....

i would run 75mgs eod of fina, i think 50mgs of win eod with the fina.... if you are ballz out like most of the natural people in this forum, run the fina at 100mgs eod, good strength gains!!!!! vewy nice

good luck bro

sounds good,

[Nailer]

fina/winn = hard on joints

[TheMudMan]

fina/winn = hard on joints

Also, with no test limp dick too

[Nailer]

Also, with no test limp dick too

Mud on point as always

[jms462]

What are your stats.... age, weight, height............

Im 5'10 208lbs 20years old....Im not into getting freaky just looking really good. Do u still think at a low dose i will have trouble with libido?

[BigMike J]

Damn i shoot 150mgs of tren in one day, I would keep your tren dosage to atleast 50mgs a day.

[BigMike J]

What are your goals?

[TheMudMan]

You need test no way around it............... If your prone to gyno then run femera or ldex combined with nolva.

[jms462]

fina/winn = hard on joints

When u say hard on the joints what do u mean?....I have taken 3 cycles prior all containing winstrol.....If Im on a good joint formula u still think their will be a problem?

[jms462]

What are your goals?

Goals are to be between 215-200 with 6-8% body fat

[BigMike J]

He means it drys the joints out

[TheMudMan]

for a cutter this is what I would run.............. I would drop the winny and use Prop, fina, and EQ

1 - 15 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 12 EQ 400mg
5 - 12 Fina 75mg ED
1 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
1 - 15 L-dex .5 ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection:

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid
Day 2 - 14 100mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid
Day 15 - 30 50mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid

[BigMike J]

Will you answer Mudmans question, what are your current stats?

[BigMike J]

Yep make sure you have some sort of test, fina is very hard on the libido

[Billy_Bathgate]

Background: I am sensitive to gyno have experienced it in a winny only cycle

um..no winny does not cause gyno

[jms462]

for a cutter this is what I would run.............. I would drop the winny and use Prop, fina, and EQ

1 - 15 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 12 EQ 400mg
5 - 12 Fina 75mg ED
1 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
1 - 15 L-dex .5 ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection:

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid
Day 2 - 14 100mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid
Day 15 - 30 50mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid

Bro this sound great but i dont want to take so much...I have seen great results with lower dosages.....I gained 15lbs solid and havent lost anything on just Winny and EQ for 10 weeks total. I dont know about test?

[jms462]

um..no winny does not cause gyno

Dont tell me it doesn't B/C i really had it and actually have it.... a very little case....

[TheMudMan]

Bro this sound great but i dont want to take so much...I have seen great results with lower dosages.....I gained 15lbs solid and havent lost anything on just Winny and EQ for 10 weeks total. I dont know about test?

That's not a lot bro................... no matter what you run you need test. But I guess in the end it's your body and will end up doing what you want anyway

[jms462]

That's not a lot bro................... no matter what you run you need test. But I guess in the end it's your body and will end up doing what you want anyway

No i really appreciate your feedback....Question im not familiar with femera or Idex...What are they?

[TheMudMan]

No i really appreciate your feedback....Question im not familiar with femera or Idex...What are they?

They are anti-e's they both stop the conversion of test into estrogen. Femera is stronger of the two but is also more expensive. Both do a good job in stopping estrogen related gyno

[jms462]

No i really appreciate your feedback....Question im not familiar with femera or Idex...What are they?

The reason I chose these three is because u keep the most or atleast thats what i thought.

[Nailer]

for a cutter this is what I would run.............. I would drop the winny and use Prop, fina, and EQ

1 - 15 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 12 EQ 400mg
5 - 12 Fina 75mg ED
1 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
1 - 15 L-dex .5 ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection:

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid
Day 2 - 14 100mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid
Day 15 - 30 50mg Clomid / 20mg Clomid

Even though this is a GREAT cycle if you dont want do run so much, take out the EQ. Prop/Fina @ 75mg ED would also be excellent.

[TheMudMan]

Fina out of all AS is the best at keeping gains.... Winny is junk........... I've used and I did have good results but it's not worth the money or the pain when I could run fina. Get way better results for way less money......

No matter what you need to run some sort of test........ I threw the EQ in there because it is also a very good AS that gains are keepable

Now all these gains are keepable only if proper PCT is done and cals are staying high

[jms462]

They are anti-e's they both stop the conversion of test into estrogen. Femera is stronger of the two but is also more expensive. Both do a good job in stopping estrogen related gyno

U think femera is better than arimadex?