cycle advice

[snatchfactor5]

i can get sustanon and deca let me know what you think

hgt 6'5"
wt 220
bf18% (i thought it would be lower i guess i carry it very well)
exp 1cyc of dbol only-
1cyc of deca only meaning i had roids and thought that is alli need to get big, well you learn and live.

that was 5 years ago and now i have been studiying
plan:
sust 500mg/wk
deca 200mg/wk to keep joints lubed
maybe winny for 5-6 wks 50/mg day not sure havent weighe out pros and cons yet
what are my expectations and what gains can i keep
i work hard in the gym and will continue to after the cycle

250 g of protien /day + diet
i will also have nolva if needed and clomid for ptc
will clen help with losing the bf?
and finally thank you

[MBaraso]

What are your goals? Deca is a mass builder, and if you do something like sus/deca then your body fat % is going to go up depending on your diet.
I suggest you cut down using clen first, along with a good diet & cardio 5 days a week.
Muscles will show alot better if you have lower bf.
Also your dosages are too low on the deca, and IMO you should use 1 ester like Test Enth or Test Cyp. Sus has to be shot more offten.

[TheMudMan]

How old are u

[asymmetrical1]

would recommend that you run the sus only, this being your real first cycle....hold the win becuase your bodyfat kinda high for win...win has serious sides too...also hold the deca , no need since you are'nt running the win...plus 200mg will shut you down hard and provide little gains....
clen could help with the bf..cycle 2 weeks on/2 weeks off
see how your body responds to the sus, then add deca on your next cycle

[snatchfactor5]

sorry forgot 28 y/o

looking to get bigger but not ripped, im already lookin 'good" but we could all look better

[TheMudMan]

If you're looking for mass use a single estered test like cyp or enan for 10 weeks at 500mg........ You could throw EQ at 500mg into the cycle but you will then need to extend the cycle to 12 weeks.

[snatchfactor5]

alright what with my stats and the fact i want to get bigger but not puffier what would be your opinions? trying to stay away form tren bcause of the neg feedback ive heard, jury is still out on winny comeback?

[asymmetrical1]

if your bf is 18% don't run the win

[TheMudMan]

alright what with my stats and the fact i want to get bigger but not puffier what would be your opinions? trying to stay away form tren bcause of the neg feedback ive heard, jury is still out on winny comeback?

You never ran a real cycle so Tren is not a good idea to run first time out.......... I will say this there are no negative feedbacks about tren. Tren is one of the better AS with some of the greatest results you will see.

If your worried about bloat run .5mg of L-dex and 10mg of Nolva for the whole cycle and clean your diet up.............. also do light cardio that will help keep the bloat down as well.

[snatchfactor5]

in your opinions what would be good to add size (quality muscle) but not get smooth looking for a 10-12 week cyc

[asymmetrical1]

a single estered test, like mud said, with .25 l-dex and 10mg nolv ed