oh MY GOD!!!

**bigdave91** · 11-20-2003, 05:44 PM

Im currently on a sust cycle in week two now.
Over the past few months iv been struggling to put muscle mass on which my work is partly to blame for it.

I bought a Mass gainer today rather than just a whey protein powder and i realised that my Calorie intake might be quite low (when i looked at the difference between the 2 products).
So i thought id go through my diet and count the Cals on the old whey protein compared to what they are now on this mass gainer and there is a 2146calorie difference!!!
So including my food i worked out i WAS getting 1920 calories per day!!! along with 260g or protein.
So I take it that this is the reason iv not been gaining until i started my cycle??

So now im getting 4066calories plus 260g protein, i weigh 161lbs and im 5,10 with about 12-15% bodyfat.
Do you think that this higher calorie intake will make a hell of a lot of difference to my gains now??

Cheers
(from a shocked but enlightened)
Dave

***asymmetrical1*** · 11-20-2003, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by bigdave91

Im currently on a sust cycle in week two now.
Over the past few months iv been struggling to put muscle mass on which my work is partly to blame for it.

I bought a Mass gainer today rather than just a whey protein powder and i realised that my Calorie intake might be quite low (when i looked at the difference between the 2 products).
So i thought id go through my diet and count the Cals on the old whey protein compared to what they are now on this mass gainer and there is a 2146calorie difference!!!
So including my food i worked out i WAS getting 1920 calories per day!!! along with 260g or protein.
So I take it that this is the reason iv not been gaining until i started my cycle??

So now im getting 4066calories plus 260g protein, i weigh 161lbs and im 5,10 with about 12-15% bodyfat.
Do you think that this higher calorie intake will make a hell of a lot of difference to my gains now??

Cheers
(from a shocked but enlightened)
Dave

yes, with that kind of change in your diet, you'll add mass without gear....it's what you should have done actually before jumping on..

**bigdave91** · 11-20-2003, 05:55 PM

i totally agree mate but i just couldnt put my finger on what was wrong until today.
Iv put on 5 lbs in the first 2 weeks on 500mg sust so heres to gaining much faster (hopefully)

Dave

**shootdeep** · 11-20-2003, 05:58 PM

yes you'll have better gains, but you may not be too happy where your gains end up. mass gainers are usually LOADED with sugar. sugar=fat eat better quality carbs and you'll be much happier with your end results

**bigdave91** · 11-20-2003, 06:01 PM

I meant to ask you something else too.

Would Taking 1 Ephidrine tablet before a workout hinder my gains in any way? It just seems to give me that extra kick and strength.

Dave

**gundam675** · 11-21-2003, 09:36 AM

im confused, 4066 cals plus 260 g of protein. ?

how many cals r u getting from the weight gainer ? and why dont u just add the protein to the total cals rather than stating it on its own. multiply by 4.

2. 260 g of p is not enough. shoot for 350 at least to oversupply ur self. it helps !

**TheMudMan** · 11-21-2003, 10:03 AM

I wouldn't use the weight gainer....... I would try to get those extra calories from real food split among all my meals.

**TRE** · 11-21-2003, 10:16 AM

The best way to get calories and protein if you have to work is tuna, peanut butter sandwichs, and protein shakes. On cycle I usually eat 10-15 cans of tuna or salmon a day with 6 peanut butter sandwichs. those just get me thru work and school.

**paulastone** · 11-21-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by TRE

The best way to get calories and protein if you have to work is tuna, peanut butter sandwichs, and protein shakes. On cycle I usually eat 10-15 cans of tuna or salmon a day with 6 peanut butter sandwichs. those just get me thru work and school.

Wow you eat that much tuna?? that makes me sick to my stomac just thinking about it