Cycle Help

[cpt steele]

I have worked out most of this but Im still trying to get it all together. Pheen helped me in the first rough draft no looking to put the rest together. THose that dont know me I am 28 been training for 5yrs this will be my fifth cycle ( real one anyway) Im 6'2'' 212# 11%+-bf My diet will be clean at 3800 cal 2gpro 1.5carb low fat,and I eat every 2hrs. 5 day basic split routine cardio 2x a week for 45 min. With that out of the way, here we go!

1-6 50mg dbol
1-20 500 test cyp
1-16 400mg eq
6-18 75ed fina
14-20 50mg winny oral
.25 ldex ed
Pct:
Day 1 300mg clo
Day 2 200 clo
Day 3-28 100mg clo
Day 1-28 25mg nolv
I know I should use hcg but not sure the correct protocol. I have clen and t-3 I know I can use the clen but what about the t-3? Can I diet back any towards the end or should I pick up the cals some. Im looking to get to about 220 @ about 8%+-. I have never really made a true plan before so am I being realistic? I am all ears

[cpt steele]

Nobody has any input?

[KeyMastur]

Nobody has any input?

nah, we don't like you

1-6 50mg dbol
1-20 500 test cyp
1-16 400mg eq
6-18 75ed fina
14-20 50mg winny oral
.25 ldex ed

i would try to end the fina and winny together.

1-6 50mg dbol
1-18 500 test cyp
1-16 400mg eq
13-20 75ed fina
15-20 50mg winny oral

???

[cpt steele]

I thought runnung the test out further is better for recovery

[Pheedno]

1-6 50mg dbol
1-20 500 test cyp
1-16 400mg eq
6-18 75ed fina
14-20 50mg winny oral
.25 ldex ed
Pct:
Day 1 300mg clo
Day 2 200 clo
Day 3-28 100mg clo
Day 1-28 25mg nolv
I know I should use hcg but not sure the correct protocol. I have clen and t-3 I know I can use the clen but what about the t-3? Can I diet back any towards the end or should I pick up the cals some. Im looking to get to about 220 @ about 8%+-. I have never really made a true plan before so am I being realistic? I am all ears

I would back the dbol to 5 wks max. 6 is a little overkill IMO, by that time, you'll be in full swing from the cyp and eq.

I'd also put the Eq at 1-18, and the winny at wks15-20 for 6 total wks.

PCT looks good. HCG would help. I'd do 500iu's on Mon/Tues of wks 12 & 22

Make sure to have the cals elevated at least 500 above maintenance going into PCT, otherwise catabolism will take over.

T3 could be used if wanted, butit's been my experience that with Tren and proper dieting, T3 doesn't offer much more. If you decide to take it. Have it tapered out at least 3-4wks before PCT. You don't want to be recovering HPTA and thyroid at the same time
3 days ramp up
27 days constant
33 day ramp down
125mcg max

[cpt steele]

Thanks pheed, Key. so is my goals realistic you think? Its ok to roll off cals a little should I start in week 15?

[KeyMastur]

i think you'll find that you'll lean out some as this cycle pregresses anyways - especially with the fina / winny combo at the end. but you can just take it as it goes and see how things roll out.

[cpt steele]

Thanks Guys