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    PumpDaddy8303 is offline Junior Member
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    QV test enthanate 250

    Has anyone used this from some of the older batches say QVE-004 they expire in oct of 2004 compared to the newer stuff that expires in 2006. Any ways the gear that expires in 2006 has a stamped expiry date while the 2004 has a printed on one. The holograms are both the same an immaculate (nice holos). Do you think that the older batch had a printed on expiry date and when counterfeits arose they started to stamp the dates? or did i get some questionable gear?

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    No! The older lots did have the #'s printed on in the same style of ink used for the rest of the label. If your holo checks out, and the labels are not square, you should be good.

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    QVE-004 hurts like a bitch! I would only do a CC until you know how your gonna react to it. That lot has high BA content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobo
    QVE-004 hurts like a bitch! I would only do a CC until you know how your gonna react to it. That lot has high BA content.

    Whats BA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpDaddy8303
    Whats BA?
    benzyl alcohol - it's used to sterilize

    it's not as high as lobo makes it out to be. doesn't even bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyMastur
    benzyl alcohol - it's used to sterilize

    it's not as high as lobo makes it out to be. doesn't even bother me.

    Well its good they sterlize

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    I got a 2006 batch, can't wait to start using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter North
    most results were good if im not mistaken from the 004 batch of QV Enan. Some batches of 007 and 009 were troublesome but i believe the first 5 batches of QV product yielded exceptional results.
    My only word to the wise is to do a bit more research before you start. Not knowing what BA is, usually is a good sign that more knowledge needs to be obtained before you take your initial plunge. PN


    Oh i do alot of reading on this site. But i can see where your coming from. But i have plenty of time to wait because i have to get a physical from my doctor. And his physicals takes a few weeks because there are many steps. Since he is taking bloodwork it will work out good for when i am off i can go back and he can check my blood again for any problems. Since i am not about to tell him i am going to juice. I just switched to him and i dont think it will go over well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyMastur
    benzyl alcohol - it's used to sterilize

    it's not as high as lobo makes it out to be. doesn't even bother me.
    It does make a decent sore spot on me for a couple days, but I had good results from it. The sting certainly wasn't anything that would ever detour me from using it.
    The last batch I had was: QVE 007 07 2005
    It's a low resolution print (looks like a stamp, but it isn't. But definitely a separate print - Black & Crooked) - Good Stuff as far as I'm concerned.
    But it did sting a tad bit....KeyMaster's just tough

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    I'm using 2006 batch now and it does hurt for a couple days but nothing you can'nt handle. I'm actually starting to get used to it.

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    i have a batch that expires in 09/2005 and it seems fine.i'm starting week 7 today and i've put on almost 20lbs so far. the first shot or two stung, but you get used to it. i guess it's also a little harder for me since i've been injecting mostly in my delts, which i hear is a tough area for enth.

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    I plut my vial in some warm/hot water before pulling it into the dart. THen, I inject slow and then massage the site. Never have a problem with that sore injection stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk D.
    I plut my vial in some warm/hot water before pulling it into the dart. THen, I inject slow and then massage the site. Never have a problem with that sore injection stuff!
    High BA products will have a bit of a bite regardless.
    EZ injection tricks and masssaging may or may not help (personally I do massage) these things may help counter the problem, but are unrelated to source of the problem.
    If it was strickly an "oil" problem, these things would be more directly effective.

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    I did a cc of enanthate and nandrolone last night and the deca seems to bug me more than the test. I massaged them in for a good few minutes each after injection, I do them before bed so I can sleep on them and not worry about walking around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiptronicSoldier
    I did a cc of enanthate and nandrolone last night and the deca seems to bug me more than the test. I massaged them in for a good few minutes each after injection, I do them before bed so I can sleep on them and not worry about walking around.
    That's a first for me Bro......Sounds like somethin's amiss.
    I can't honestly say I remember a particularly sore Deca shot.
    I didn't see you do it, but I would have a hard time blaming it on the Deca.
    However, I have about a 2" round spot on my upper right glute that is so scarred up, almost anything will make a sore spot for at least 24 hrs.
    In fact I seldom shoot there anymore...seems like a waste, sometimes half the shot just hangs out there for a few days. Did the Deca shot get put in an active shot spot? (more than other spots?)

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