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    JC54321 is offline New Member
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    Long Cyclers--use eq or test

    I have a question. I really like all testosterone compunds but I do not look cut on the them, depsite arimidex or whatever. With longer cycles, test is a good base and it has a positive effect on the way you feel. I have used eq once for 10 weeks at 400 and I didn't like it, but it was QV and Ganabol. If I wanted to do a long (20 or so) cycle would it be wasteful to run eq at moderate doses for a long time without test (have some on hand in case)? Do you think it is a good way to add mass without any bodyfat and bloat? (with a moderate diet). Would it be worth a try? I gain a lot every test cycle but in the end I look good but I have to diet again. I don't want to lose the pump and size tha ttest gives. I would liek to hear eq testimonials(preferably those with a low test dose or no test dose; i.e. tren and eq, win and eq, w/o dieting)

    Pain of a question, but I am indecisive. Who does bulking cycles with out the bloat?
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    If you used a lot of arimidex, you think the bloat would be comparable to eq or do you feel that eq plays a role in making you look cut?

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    I'm one of those who believes Test is a must in all cycles. If you have problems with bloat, then Test Prop might be the best choice.

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    I will say that as a youngster I did run EQ by itself with good results although personally I would still recommend you run a low level test and anti-e with it to maximize the cycle. Diet and Aromasin or femara seems to cure almost any bloat I get even at high levels.

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    so do you think a dosing eq higher than test is ok? The only other step for me would be to use high level test with a lot of arimidex ---I don't get gyno or anything but I just see a good deal of bloat and look soft when not pumped.

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    I agree with rickson, ive ran EQ for long periods of time when i was younger and got good results. The results were slow, but they were there and the only side effect i noticed was that it was hard to get fully erect and it took forever to finish up.. Which is somewhat expected. I'd still add test even if its only a little. If you run ari, then run 10mg of nolva with it for its serm benifits and to keep lipid levels in check

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    I dont see any reason why you couldnt run 800mg/wk of eq along with maybe 100mg/eod of test prop or enan at 400mg/wk. A great cutter IMO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimunex
    I'm one of those who believes Test is a must in all cycles. If you have problems with bloat, then Test Prop might be the best choice.
    Agreed.

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    I love EQ and run it all year. With that compound, its quality, not quantity. I do cycles within cycles all year, never really coming completely off and EQ is the one compound that I stay on all year.
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    Always run Test..even with longer cycles.

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