FIRST CYCLE, Good choices?

**BIGSNOR** · 12-01-2003, 01:45 PM

For my first cycle I think I am going to stack test enanthate with clomid, and use clomid post cycle. Is this a good basic stack? And how long should I cycle these two? and how much? I'm 5'11, 230. Thankyou.

***Pheedno*** · 12-01-2003, 01:50 PM

250mg Enan E4D
Clomid/Nolva combo begining 2wks after last shot.

Whats you age and training experience?

**TheMudMan** · 12-01-2003, 01:52 PM

Don't use clomid as your anti-e.......... use clomid along with nolvadex durring PCT to bring back HPTA fuctions.

1 - 10 Enan 500mg a week
1 - 12 Nolva 10mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

**groverman1** · 12-01-2003, 02:55 PM

Mudman is right on it's the cycle I am doing and have put on 25lbs in 7 wks.

**fabry** · 12-01-2003, 02:58 PM

sorry to all! i'm new to this forum and just mada couple of stupid thing.. i asked questions to people that post 2 yars ago...

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i would like to start my 1st cycle, but i have so much counfusion in my head! hundreds of exemples!!!
they all have different n° of weeks, different stacks, different anti-e indications?!?!?!
i've ordered deca , dianabol , clomid and nolvadex .
should i order sustanon too?
how do a novice should start? what stack? how long?
i've heard a lot about deca/dianabol? is it good?
please please please... here in italy is difficult to get this kind of information!
tnx

**Rickson** · 12-01-2003, 03:09 PM

Test cycle with a clomid/Nolvadex PCT is a great first cycle. Mudman has a nice cycle outlined.

Biondo,
Start your own thread and we will answer your questions.

**BIGSNOR** · 12-01-2003, 03:12 PM

Mudman u say weeks 1 through 10 to use 500mg, but how many cc's is this, and how many times a day. A friend of mine is doing a 250 mg cycle of test with a half cc, twice a week. should i be doing somethin like this with the 500?

**fabry** · 12-01-2003, 03:27 PM

do you mean that i should start my own new topic?
and where is the mudman cycle?
tnx for your answers!!!

**Consistency** · 12-01-2003, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by BIGSNOR

Mudman u say weeks 1 through 10 to use 500mg, but how many cc's is this, and how many times a day. A friend of mine is doing a 250 mg cycle of test with a half cc, twice a week. should i be doing somethin like this with the 500?

to figure out how many cc's 500mgs is... it depends on the strength of the test you have. Say you have test 250, that means there is 250mg per cc. so in order to get 500mg a week, you will have to inject 2 cc's of test. If you have test at 100mg, then you will need 5 cc's... etc....

**gym** · 12-02-2003, 09:28 AM

if you do not understand mg str and cc? you should do your studys before you start anything. aas is not a game. you must follow the rules or end up in a place were you don't want to be.DO SOME RESEARCH!

**fabry** · 12-02-2003, 09:47 AM

To TheMudMan or other "experts".
yesterday i was asking for a first cycle exemple and most of you told me more or less to start the following cylce:

1 - 10 Test Enan 500mg a week (split it into 2 injections a week)
1 - 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED (everyday)

PCT,, 2 weeks after last test injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

What about if i see my gains are too much of my idea of being big? can i stop the cylce for exemple after 7-8 weeks? in this case, the pct cycle, will have to start always 2 weeks after last test inject?
tnx

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 12-02-2003, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Biondo[ITA]

To TheMudMan or other "experts".
yesterday i was asking for a first cycle exemple and most of you told me more or less to start the following cylce:

1 - 10 Test Enan 500mg a week (split it into 2 injections a week)
1 - 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED (everyday)

PCT,, 2 weeks after last test injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

What about if i see my gains are too much of my idea of being big? can i stop the cylce for exemple after 7-8 weeks? in this case, the pct cycle, will have to start always 2 weeks after last test inject?
tnx

Hey, start your own thread. Its not polite to hyjack other peoples threads. Just start your own and then you can get all your answers.

**fabry** · 12-02-2003, 10:00 AM

ahh, i understando just now this rule! i'm sorry i'm italian and sometimes some words "sound" different! i thought i could go into any thread and continue the discussion...
sorry!